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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] utrace
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:40:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080830134057.GB17566@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080827164055.GA22236@in.ibm.com>

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On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:10:55PM +0530, Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli wrote:
> Uprobes is just one user of utrace. It is intended for use for simple
> tracing where we need a kernel+userspace look at the problem at hand.
> The intention is for use in simple cases (when condition x is met, what
> is the value of variable y, etc).
> 
> For more advanced tracing though, there are other ideas being proposed
> (see ntrace discussions on utrace-devel, but I guess now lkml is the
> right place for that discussion too).
> 
> However, there are components of uprobes such as breakpoint
> insertion/removal and single-stepping infrastructure that are
> potentially useful to other userspace debuggers. We are working on
> factoring those out to live independent of uprobes. You should be seeing
> those patches soon.

I hope my original mail was clear that I'm not principially against
utrace.  I think having a generic trace even dispatcher is a good thing
if it is a) not overly complicated (see Alexeyús mails for that) and b)
actually has a user.  A better debugger interface as the ntrace idea
would be the prime candidate for that.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-26 22:01 Roland McGrath
2008-08-26 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] utrace core Roland McGrath
2008-08-26 22:55   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-27 21:32     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-27 21:46       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-27 22:00         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-30 13:45     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-03 12:11     ` Roland McGrath
2008-09-03 17:01       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-27 20:04   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-09-03 12:11     ` Roland McGrath
2008-09-03 18:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-30 15:05   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-09-03 12:58   ` Petr Tesarik
2008-09-03 18:08     ` Roland McGrath
2008-09-03 18:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-04  9:03         ` Petr Tesarik
2008-08-26 22:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] utrace: ptrace cooperation Roland McGrath
2008-08-30 13:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-03 12:10     ` Roland McGrath
2008-09-03 18:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-26 22:34 ` [PATCH 0/2] utrace Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-26 22:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-27  0:17   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-08-27 13:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-27 16:40       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2008-08-30 13:40         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-09-03 12:09           ` Roland McGrath
2008-09-03 18:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-27 15:34     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-29 19:04       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-08-30 13:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-27 18:50   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-08-27  2:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-06 20:47 ` Peter Zijlstra

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