From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
dwmw2@infradead.org, drepper@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu,
tglx@tglx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] hrtimer: create a "timer_slack" field in the task struct
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:03:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080902060323.70245b83@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080902100439.GA11383@elf.ucw.cz>
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:04:39 +0200
Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
> > Subject: [PATCH] hrtimer: create a "timer_slack" field in the task
> > struct
> >
> > We want to be able to control the default "rounding" that is used by
> > select() and poll() and friends. This is a per process property
> > (so that we can have a "nice" like program to start certain
> > programs with a looser or stricter rounding) that can be set/get
> > via a prctl().
> >
> > For this purpose, a field called "timer_slack_ns" is added to the
> > task struct. In addition, a field called "default_timer_slack"ns"
> > is added so that tasks easily can temporarily to a more/less
> > accurate slack and then back to the default.
>
> Is this a good idea? IMO it should be per-syscall, not per
> application.
Yes it would be nice to have new syscalls for this
and no, nobody and nothing would use them.
THe really big advantag of this default-from-task-struct is that you
can have a program similar to "nice" that allows you to run an existing
program at a specified granularity (say, a version of acroread that has
a really high wakeup count but you still want to save power)
> Threads would certainly like private values...
of course these are per thread.. they're in the task struct after all
> and this makes really ugly interface.
prctl() is ugly?
>
> ...plus it bloats task struct.
>
> ...where did the sys_indirect proposals go? We created new syscalls,
> right?
... which nobody uses today.
It's not just new syscalls, it's a new glibc api as well at that point.
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-01 23:03 [PATCH 0/13] Turn hrtimers into a range capable timer Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 1/13] hrtimer: add abstraction functions for accessing the "expires" member Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:05 ` [PATCH 2/13] hrtimer: convert kvm to the new hrtimer apis Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:06 ` [PATCH 3/13] hrtimer: convert timerfd " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:07 ` [PATCH 4/13] hrtimer: convert net::sched_cbq " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:08 ` [PATCH 5/13] hrtimer: convert kernel/* " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:09 ` [PATCH 6/13] hrtimer: convert powerpc/oprofile " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:09 ` [PATCH 7/13] hrtimer: convert kvm-ia64 " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:10 ` [PATCH 8/13] hrtimer: convert s390 " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:11 ` [PATCH 9/13] hrtimer: convert sound/ " Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:12 ` [PATCH 10/13] hrtimer: rename the "expires" struct member to avoid accidental usage Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] hrtimer: turn hrtimers into range timers Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-02 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 13:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-02 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-02 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 16:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-01 23:14 ` [PATCH 12/13] hrtimer: create a "timer_slack" field in the task struct Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-02 10:04 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-02 13:03 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-09-08 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-08 13:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-08 14:15 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-08 14:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-13 16:24 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-14 15:21 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-09-14 15:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-14 15:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-14 16:04 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-09-14 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-17 7:42 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-30 5:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-30 8:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-30 8:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-01 23:14 ` [PATCH 13/13] hrtimer: make select() and poll() use the hrtimer range feature Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-02 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 16:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-06 14:56 ` [PATCH 0/13] Turn hrtimers into a range capable timer Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 16:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-06 16:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-12 3:39 ` Rusty Russell
2008-09-12 5:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-12 20:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
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