From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755284AbYIKPus (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:50:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752627AbYIKPul (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:50:41 -0400 Received: from hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.113]:26321 "EHLO hpsmtp-eml13.kpnxchange.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752570AbYIKPuk (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:50:40 -0400 From: Frans Pop To: David Woodhouse Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware: Allow release-specific firmware dir Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:49:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: davem@davemloft.net, jeffm@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Jeff Garzik References: <48C68507.6000609@suse.com> <200809111725.01511.elendil@planet.nl> <1221147068.8593.31.camel@macbook.infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <1221147068.8593.31.camel@macbook.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809111749.40204.elendil@planet.nl> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2008 15:49:40.0729 (UTC) FILETIME=[008C7E90:01C91426] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 11 September 2008, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:24 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > Did you read the second part of the mail explaining why having a > > single "firmware" package is not a good idea? > > Yes, but it was nonsense, so I ignored it. "The reason for this is the > possibility that a driver and its firmware may be dropped from the > upstream kernel source." That doesn't happen very often, and you > _certainly_ don't need to immediately drop the firmware if it does. Fine. Again you are concentrating on the bright and shiny future and magically wishing into existence tools to support the new situation. Just keep on ignoring current issues. As I've said, I can work around them. However, I seriously expect others will have stopped their kernel testing and I also expect "real users" to run into problems building custom kernels. I think I've made my point and will (try to) keep out of the discussion. It's way too much like discussing religion anyway: people who "believe" are rarely able to listen properly.