From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
To: "Parag Warudkar" <parag.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: "Greg KH" <gregkh@suse.de>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Andreas Gruenbacher" <agruen@suse.de>,
"Jeff Mahoney" <jeffm@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/04] RFC: Staging tree (drivers/staging)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:03:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080924180316.d6f9f85c.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7848160809241639hbe716c9q76b0e1b83d853721@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:39:42 -0400 Parag Warudkar wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
> > So, does this all look good to everyone? Any questions/issues?
> >
>
> I sure hope this does not end up like EXPERIMENTAL although it
> essentially does duplicate the intent of EXPERIMENTAL.
> (In other words - drivers live there for ever in staging mode, we
> print warnings and generally nobody cares about the problem since the
> kernel is tainted.)
>
> That aside please at least substitute the word CRAP with something
> better - like TAINT_NON_PRODUCTION or TAINT_UNRELIABLE or
> TAINT_WORK_IN_PROGRESS or TAINT_EXPERIMENTAL . Arguably
> TAINT_EXPERIMENTAL could also be used for known broken
> CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL items. It might also be better to change the
> staging directory name to non-production or experimental - but that's
> just my preference.
>
> Also, I suppose it would be useful for Production machines to have a
> kernel command line flag or something to say don't load staging
> modules - for instance to prevent against automatic loading on drivers
> from staging directory to support some oddball device etc.
>
> Thinking more about it - could this whole thing not be achieved by
> setting per module experimental flag and refusing to insmod'ing
> experimental modules if -f was not specified. I believe force loading
> also taints the kernel? All drivers intended for staging can set that
> flag - this way we don't need another TAINT flag and there is no need
> for the directory name hack.
Thanks. I agree with Parag's comments.
Looks like overkill/duplication.
---
~Randy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-25 1:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-09-24 23:00 ` Greg KH
2008-09-24 23:01 ` [patch 01/04] Staging: add TAINT_CRAP for all drivers/staging code Greg KH
2008-09-24 23:01 ` [patch 02/04] Staging: add TAINT_CRAP flag to drivers/staging modules Greg KH
2008-09-24 23:01 ` [patch 04/04] USB: add princeton instruments usb camera driver Greg KH
2008-09-24 23:01 ` [patch 03/04] Staging: add Kconfig entries and Makefile infrastructure Greg KH
2008-09-24 23:39 ` [patch 00/04] RFC: Staging tree (drivers/staging) Parag Warudkar
2008-09-25 1:03 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2008-09-25 2:06 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 2:06 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 2:59 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-25 4:21 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 11:02 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-25 20:53 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 21:40 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-25 22:04 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 22:22 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-26 18:36 ` Stefan Richter
2008-09-26 20:11 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-26 20:19 ` Greg KH
2008-09-26 20:56 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-26 22:03 ` Greg KH
2008-09-26 21:00 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-09-26 22:04 ` Greg KH
2008-09-26 20:39 ` Stefan Richter
2008-09-26 20:47 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-09-26 22:46 ` Stefan Richter
2008-09-25 5:27 ` Paul Mundt
2008-09-25 14:49 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-25 17:53 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-25 20:48 ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 21:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-25 21:51 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-06 15:11 ` config_experimental was " Pavel Machek
2008-10-09 21:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-09 21:08 ` Greg KH
2008-10-09 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
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