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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Update cacheline size on X86_GENERIC
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:27:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810111327.27121.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081011112218.GA12131@one.firstfloor.org>

On Saturday, 11 of October 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 07:29:19PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > I also think there are reasonable arguments the other way, and I
> > personally also think it might be better to leave it 128 (even
> > if it is unlikely, introducing a regression is not good).
> 
> The issue is also that the regression will be likely large.
> False sharing can really hurt when it hits as you know, because
> the penalties are so large.
> 
> > > There are millions and millions of P4s around.
> > > And they're not that old, they're still shipping in fact.
> > 
> > Still shipping in anything aside from 1s systems?
> 
> Remember the first Core2 based 4S (Tigerton) Xeon was only introduced last year 
> and that market is quite conservative. For 2S it's a bit longer, but
> it wouldn't surprise me there if new systems are still shipping.
> 
> Also to be honest I doubt the theory that older systems
> are never upgraded to newer OS.

Actaually, I have examples to the contrary. :-)

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-11 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 17:14 Dave Jones
2008-10-10  3:28 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-10  7:46   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-10  8:45     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-10 10:22       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-11  3:59         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-11  8:08           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-11  8:29             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-11 11:22               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-11 11:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-10-11 11:42                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-11 13:11                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-11 13:48                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-11 14:01                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-12  5:56                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-10 18:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-11  3:56     ` Nick Piggin

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