From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca" <ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca>,
Michael Davidson <md@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 15/15] LTTng timestamp x86
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:50:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081018175005.GA2211@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0810181011310.3438@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> And if you make all these linear interpolations be per-CPU (so you
> have per-CPU offsets and frequencies) you never _ever_ need to touch
> any shared data at all, and you know you can scale basically
> perfectly.
>
> Your linear interpolations may not be _perfect_, but you'll be able to
> get them pretty damn near. In fact, even if the TSC's aren't
> synchronized at all, if they are at least _individually_ stable (just
> running at slightly different frequencies because they are in
> different clock domains, and/or at different start points), you can
> basically perfect the precision over time.
there's been code submitted by Michael Davidson recently that looked
interesting, which turns the TSC into such an entity:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/9/25/451
The periodic synchronization uses the hpet, but it thus allows lockless
and globally correct readouts of the TSC .
And that would match the long term goal as well: the hw should do this
all automatically. So perhaps we should have a trace_clock() after all,
independent of sched_clock(), and derived straight from RDTSC.
The approach as propoed has a couple of practical problems, but if we
could be one RDTSC+multiplication away from a pretty good timestamp that
would be rather useful, very fast and very robust ...
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-18 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-16 23:27 [RFC patch 00/15] Tracer Timestamping Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 01/15] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 02/15] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 03/15] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:48 ` [RFC patch 03/15] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:57 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 04/15] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-17 0:43 ` [RFC patch 04/15] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-17 1:42 ` David Miller
2008-10-17 2:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:33 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 05/15] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-26 10:18 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-10-26 20:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 06/15] LTTng build Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 8:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-17 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 07/15] LTTng timestamp Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 8:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-17 16:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 08/15] LTTng - Timestamping Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 09/15] LTTng mips export hpt frequency Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 10/15] LTTng timestamp mips Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 11/15] LTTng timestamp powerpc Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 12/15] LTTng timestamp sparc64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 13/15] LTTng timestamp sh Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 14/15] LTTng - TSC synchronicity test Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-16 23:27 ` [RFC patch 15/15] LTTng timestamp x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-17 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-17 1:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 2:19 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 17:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-17 18:08 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 18:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 18:58 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-17 20:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 23:52 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-18 17:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-18 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 17:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-22 16:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-22 15:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-20 18:07 ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-22 16:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-20 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 21:38 ` john stultz
2008-10-20 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 22:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-21 18:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2008-10-23 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-23 16:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-23 21:54 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-20 23:47 ` john stultz
2008-10-22 17:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-17 19:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-17 7:59 ` [RFC patch 00/15] Tracer Timestamping Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20 20:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-21 0:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-21 1:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-21 2:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-21 4:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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