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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>
Cc: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:55:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081020115533.GB10594@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224443274.5526.39.camel@vonnegut.anholt.net>


* Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net> wrote:

> > The APIs would be:
> > 
> >   int   io_resource_init_mapping(struct resource *res);
> >  void   io_resource_free_mapping(struct resource *res);
> >  void * io_resource_map(struct resource *res, pfn_t pfn, unsigned long offset);
> >  void   io_resource_unmap(struct resource *res, void *kaddr);
> > 
> > Note how simple and consistent it all gets: IO resources already 
> > know their physical location and their size limits. Being able to 
> > cache an ioremap in a mapping [and being able to use atomic kmaps on 
> > 32-bit] is a relatively simple and natural extension to the concept.
> > 
> > i think that would be quite acceptable - and the APIs could just 
> > transparently work on it. This would also allow the PCI code to 
> > automatically unmap any cached mappings from resources, when the 
> > driver deinitializes.
> > 
> > Linus, Jesse, what do you think?
> > 
> > i think we need to finalize the API names and their abstraction 
> > level, and then could even merge those APIs into v2.6.28 on a fast 
> > path, to enable you to use it. It does not interact with anything 
> > else so it should be safe to do.
> 
> This API needs the cacheability control, which I don't see in it 
> currently. [...]

yes, these two should do the trick:

 int   io_resource_init_mapping_wc(struct resource *res);
 int   io_resource_init_mapping_wb(struct resource *res);

> Second, we need to know when we're doing a mapping whether we're 
> affected by atomic scheduling restrictions.  Right now our plan has 
> been to try doing page-by-page 
> io_map_atomic_wc()/copy_from_user_inatomic()/io_unmap_atomic(), and if 
> we fail at that at some point (map returns NULL or we get a partial 
> completion from copy_from_user_inatomic) then fall back to io_map_wc() 
> and copy_from_user() the whole thing at once.  That gets us good 
> performance on both x86 with highmem and x86-64, and not too shabby 
> performance on x86 non-highmem.

that gets ugly very fast. I think we should not use atomic kmaps but 
NR_CPUS _fixmaps_ with a per CPU array of mutexes (this is basically 
atomic kmaps but without the preemption restrictions). We could 
take/drop the mutex and statistically you'll stay on the same CPU and 
wont ever contend on that lock in practice.

> Also, while it's rare, there have been graphics cards (looking at you, 
> S3) where BARs were expensive for some reason and they stuffed both 
> the framebuffer and registers into one PCI BAR, where you want the FB 
> to be WC and the registers to be UC.  Not sure if they would be 
> supportable with this API or not.  And if it's not, I'm not sure how 
> much we care to design for them, but it's something to potentially 
> consider.

yes, this is a weakness of this API - you cannot mix multiple 
cachability domains within the same BAR.

and that can happen on non-graphics as well: some storage controller 
that has regular control registers in one portion of the BAR, which all 
need to be consistently accessed via UC and properly POST-ed - while it 
could also have some large mailbox structure at the end of the BAR, 
which could be mapped both cacheable or perhaps WC.

So ... i guess we can go back to the io_mapping API proposed by Keith, 
but not make it atomic kmap based but fixmap + mutex based - for good 
32-bit performance. (and the fixmap would not be used on 64-bit at all)

> Finally, I'm confused by the pfn and offset args to io_resource_map, 
> when I expected something parallel to ioremap but with our resource 
> arg added.

ok.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-20 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-17 21:29 [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Dave Airlie
2008-10-17 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  2:10   ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-18  2:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  3:49       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18  6:44         ` Corbin Simpson
2008-10-18  7:49       ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-19 17:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20  4:17           ` Steven J Newbury
2008-10-20 16:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 20:04     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-10-18  9:11   ` Dave Airlie
2008-10-18  1:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 19:11   ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 19:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 20:07       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-18 20:20       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 20:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 21:51         ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 22:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 22:47             ` Jon Smirl
2008-10-18 22:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-19  0:38             ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19  1:06               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19  1:15                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 10:01               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19  4:14             ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19  6:41               ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19 17:53                 ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 18:00                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19 19:07                   ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-20 11:55                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-20 12:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 21:04                   ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 11:58                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 15:49                       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-22  9:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23  7:14                           ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23  7:14                             ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Keith Packard
2008-10-23  7:14                               ` [PATCH] [drm/i915] Use io-mapping interfaces instead of a variety of mapping kludges Keith Packard
2008-10-24  4:49                               ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Randy Dunlap
2008-10-24  6:26                                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23  8:05                             ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 15:39                               ` Keith Packard
2008-11-03  7:00                                 ` Dave Airlie
2008-11-03 10:48                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 16:36                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-03 16:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 17:29                                       ` [git pull] IO mappings, #2 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 22:36                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-05  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 20:22                           ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Keith Packard
2008-10-23 20:38                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-23 21:03                               ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23 21:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24  1:50                                 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  2:48                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24  3:24                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-24  5:37                                       ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 14:53                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24 15:45                                           ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  4:29                                     ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  6:22                                     ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24  7:33                                       ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  8:38                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24  9:19                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  9:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 11:04                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 15:48                                         ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 10:18                                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24  9:14                                     ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24  3:21                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-20 10:10                   ` io resources and cached mappings " Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19  4:28             ` [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Yinghai Lu
2008-10-19  3:14       ` Nick Piggin

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