From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>
Cc: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel@lists.sf.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:55:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081020115533.GB10594@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224443274.5526.39.camel@vonnegut.anholt.net>
* Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net> wrote:
> > The APIs would be:
> >
> > int io_resource_init_mapping(struct resource *res);
> > void io_resource_free_mapping(struct resource *res);
> > void * io_resource_map(struct resource *res, pfn_t pfn, unsigned long offset);
> > void io_resource_unmap(struct resource *res, void *kaddr);
> >
> > Note how simple and consistent it all gets: IO resources already
> > know their physical location and their size limits. Being able to
> > cache an ioremap in a mapping [and being able to use atomic kmaps on
> > 32-bit] is a relatively simple and natural extension to the concept.
> >
> > i think that would be quite acceptable - and the APIs could just
> > transparently work on it. This would also allow the PCI code to
> > automatically unmap any cached mappings from resources, when the
> > driver deinitializes.
> >
> > Linus, Jesse, what do you think?
> >
> > i think we need to finalize the API names and their abstraction
> > level, and then could even merge those APIs into v2.6.28 on a fast
> > path, to enable you to use it. It does not interact with anything
> > else so it should be safe to do.
>
> This API needs the cacheability control, which I don't see in it
> currently. [...]
yes, these two should do the trick:
int io_resource_init_mapping_wc(struct resource *res);
int io_resource_init_mapping_wb(struct resource *res);
> Second, we need to know when we're doing a mapping whether we're
> affected by atomic scheduling restrictions. Right now our plan has
> been to try doing page-by-page
> io_map_atomic_wc()/copy_from_user_inatomic()/io_unmap_atomic(), and if
> we fail at that at some point (map returns NULL or we get a partial
> completion from copy_from_user_inatomic) then fall back to io_map_wc()
> and copy_from_user() the whole thing at once. That gets us good
> performance on both x86 with highmem and x86-64, and not too shabby
> performance on x86 non-highmem.
that gets ugly very fast. I think we should not use atomic kmaps but
NR_CPUS _fixmaps_ with a per CPU array of mutexes (this is basically
atomic kmaps but without the preemption restrictions). We could
take/drop the mutex and statistically you'll stay on the same CPU and
wont ever contend on that lock in practice.
> Also, while it's rare, there have been graphics cards (looking at you,
> S3) where BARs were expensive for some reason and they stuffed both
> the framebuffer and registers into one PCI BAR, where you want the FB
> to be WC and the registers to be UC. Not sure if they would be
> supportable with this API or not. And if it's not, I'm not sure how
> much we care to design for them, but it's something to potentially
> consider.
yes, this is a weakness of this API - you cannot mix multiple
cachability domains within the same BAR.
and that can happen on non-graphics as well: some storage controller
that has regular control registers in one portion of the BAR, which all
need to be consistently accessed via UC and properly POST-ed - while it
could also have some large mailbox structure at the end of the BAR,
which could be mapped both cacheable or perhaps WC.
So ... i guess we can go back to the io_mapping API proposed by Keith,
but not make it atomic kmap based but fixmap + mutex based - for good
32-bit performance. (and the fixmap would not be used on 64-bit at all)
> Finally, I'm confused by the pfn and offset args to io_resource_map,
> when I expected something parallel to ioremap but with our resource
> arg added.
ok.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-20 11:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-17 21:29 [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Dave Airlie
2008-10-17 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 2:10 ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-18 2:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 3:49 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 6:44 ` Corbin Simpson
2008-10-18 7:49 ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-19 17:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-20 4:17 ` Steven J Newbury
2008-10-20 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 20:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-10-18 9:11 ` Dave Airlie
2008-10-18 1:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 19:11 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 20:07 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-18 20:20 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 21:51 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-18 22:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-18 22:47 ` Jon Smirl
2008-10-18 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-19 0:38 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19 1:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19 1:15 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 10:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 4:14 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19 6:41 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-19 17:53 ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 18:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-19 19:07 ` Eric Anholt
2008-10-20 11:55 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-10-20 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 21:04 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-20 11:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-20 15:49 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-22 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 7:14 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23 7:14 ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Keith Packard
2008-10-23 7:14 ` [PATCH] [drm/i915] Use io-mapping interfaces instead of a variety of mapping kludges Keith Packard
2008-10-24 4:49 ` [PATCH] Add io-mapping functions to dynamically map large device apertures Randy Dunlap
2008-10-24 6:26 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23 8:05 ` io resources and cached mappings (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 15:39 ` Keith Packard
2008-11-03 7:00 ` Dave Airlie
2008-11-03 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-03 16:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-03 17:29 ` [git pull] IO mappings, #2 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 22:36 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-11-05 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-23 20:22 ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Keith Packard
2008-10-23 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-23 21:03 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-23 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24 1:50 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 2:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24 3:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-24 5:37 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 14:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-24 15:45 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 4:29 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 6:22 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 7:33 ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 9:19 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 11:04 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 15:48 ` Keith Packard
2008-10-24 10:18 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-10-24 9:14 ` Adding kmap_atomic_prot_pfn (was: [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1) Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 3:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-20 10:10 ` io resources and cached mappings " Ingo Molnar
2008-10-19 4:28 ` [git pull] drm patches for 2.6.27-rc1 Yinghai Lu
2008-10-19 3:14 ` Nick Piggin
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