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From: Bastian Blank <bastian@waldi.eu.org>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, roland@redhat.com,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Protect cinit from fatal signals
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:52:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081204125213.GB31061@wavehammer.waldi.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081202205130.GB20077@us.ibm.com>

On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:51:30PM -0800, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> Bastian Blank [bastian@waldi.eu.org] wrote:
> | No. They have are not special from the outside namespace.
> I agree that they should not be. But they are special today in at least one
> respect - terminating a container-init will terminate all processes in the
> container even those that are in unrelated process groups.

This is part of the definition.

> Secondly, a poorly written container-inits can take the entire container down,
> So we expect that container-inits to handle/ignore all signals rather than
> SIG_DFL them. Current global inits do that today and container-inits should
> too. It does not look like an unreasonable requirement.

So you intend to workaround tools which are used as container-init but
does not qualify for this work. Why?

> So the basic requirements are:
> 
> 	- container-init receives/processes all signals from ancestor namespace.
> 	- container-init ignores fatal signals from own namespace.
> 
> We are simplifying the first to say that:
> 
> 	- parent-ns must have a way to terminate container-init
> 	- cinit will ignore SIG_DFL signals that may terminate cinit even if
> 	  they come from parent ns

This is no simplification. This are more constraints.

Bastian

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-04 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-26  3:42 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Container init signal semantics Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement ns_of_pid Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:19   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:24     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:58       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 22:12         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-03  0:34         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-11-26  3:45 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] pid: Generalize task_active_pid_ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:17   ` Bastian Blank
2008-11-27 21:19     ` Greg Kurz
2008-12-01 21:15       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:57         ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-03  7:41           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:58             ` Bastian Blank
2008-11-27 13:09   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-12-01 20:38     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:01   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:15     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 11:48       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 19:59         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:45           ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns+ Bastian Blank
2008-12-02  3:07   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Determine if sender is from ancestor ns Roland McGrath
2008-12-04  1:06   ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-09  3:22     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Protect cinit from fatal signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-27  1:07   ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-01 20:21     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-02 12:06       ` Bastian Blank
2008-12-02 20:51         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-04 12:52           ` Bastian Blank [this message]
2008-12-04 18:58             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-26  3:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] Clear si_pid for signal from ancestor ns Sukadev Bhattiprolu

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