From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812071439.27712.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812062201230.3425@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Sunday, 7 of December 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > And btw, I'm talking suspend, not hibernate.
Even as far as hibernation is concerned, I wouldn't _expect_ any BIOS to do
anything like this as long as we use the ACPI facility to enter S4.
> And, btw, even if anybody actually does this, it should be up to the
> interrupt controller logic to re-initialize the interrupts so that they
> are back where they belong. IOW, we should never show such _idiotic_
> brokenness to any actual driver, it should all be remapped and handled
> below them.
>
> And I still have never heard any valid reason to do it in the first place,
> so until somebody actually gives a real example and an explanation, I
> would suggest ignoring the whole issue as some insane rumblings from crazy
> hw/firmare people doing idiotic things.
While I'd really like to do that, I also think that we should make all drivers
behave in the same way in this area.
Also, we need to state clearly what the _recommended_way of doing that is,
at least as a guidance for driver writers if not for anything else.
So, can we just say that PCI drivers shouldn't free IRQs during suspend and
request them during resume, and if there's any problem that leads to, then it
should be solved differently?
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-07 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-02 2:20 Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 4:31 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 5:29 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 5:56 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 17:46 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 8:53 ` MSI changes in .28 Frans Pop
2008-12-05 9:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-12-05 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05 13:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-05 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-02 4:13 ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Frans Pop
2008-12-02 4:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 0:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 1:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 7:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 7:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 11:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 1:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 4:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 8:21 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 11:29 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 18:00 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 0:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 1:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 2:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 2:45 ` Greg KH
2009-01-28 12:00 ` Frans Pop
2009-01-29 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-29 16:44 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2009-01-30 4:35 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-06 9:20 ` [patch,rfc] usb: restore config before enabling device on resume Frans Pop
2008-12-06 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 15:02 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 14:06 ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume (was: Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500) Frans Pop
2008-12-10 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:05 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-10 18:41 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-20 21:31 ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume Frans Pop
2008-12-21 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-23 4:28 ` Len Brown
2008-12-04 22:46 ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 0:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 6:55 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 0:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 1:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 1:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 3:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 6:44 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05 8:27 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05 12:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 17:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-02 15:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 4:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 5:41 ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 17:26 ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 23:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume (rebased) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 18:30 ` [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Alan Stern
2008-12-06 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 23:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-06 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 6:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 13:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-12-07 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-14 9:28 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-07 17:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07 9:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07 0:02 ` Alan Stern
2008-12-07 13:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] PCI: Suspend and resume PCI Express ports with interrupts disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 2:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] Sound (HDA Intel): Restore PCI configuration space with interrupts off Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 4:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 7:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-12 6:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-06 19:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Frans Pop
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