From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: "Evgeniy Polyakov" <zbr@ioremap.net>,
"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Linux Crypto Mailing List" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Runaway loop with the current git.
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:51:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081207175118.09c633e8@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510812070939h17ef6316hea96fe89f01207a6@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:39:48 +0100
"Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 18:28, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> >> > /dev/console is a logical mapping to a device which may well be
> >> > different, loaded after PCI is initialised and dependant on PCI.
> >>
> >> So wrong. If no driver is associated, like early, in that case, we
> >> must return -ENODEV, instead of calling modprobe in a loop. It's a
> >> built-in device, and it's easy to fix.
> >
> > You've clearly no idea how initrd even works have you ?
>
> Not sure, if you understand the real problem. A kernel forked binary
> is allowed to access /dev/console, but it triggers a kernel bug.
If there is a hotplug load for the console device then it cannot. Just as
a request for the driver for /dev/hda cannot open /dev/hda* again.
> Nonsense. The kernel calls /sbin/modprobe directly, no hotplug involved.
Its up to you if the kernel calls modprobe and what your modprobe is
> The kernel calls modprobe for something, modprobe tries to log an
> error, and the kernel calls modprobe again. Bug! No hotplug involved.
A modprobe to load the console device shouln't open /dev/console. Very
simple and always been true.
> > Kernel issues hotplug message
> > .....
> > Kernel detects this is stuck
> > Kernel replies with -ENODEV/-ENXIO to try
> > and rescue itself from buggy initrd scripts
>
> Totally wrong, It never was that way
Funny but its been that way for many many years. Just as it cannot try and
syslog an error when loading the AF_UNIX socket family.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-07 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-05 18:03 Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-05 18:16 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-05 18:32 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-05 19:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-05 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-05 21:12 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-05 21:17 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-05 21:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-06 2:10 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-06 16:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-06 16:16 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-06 16:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-06 18:11 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-06 19:32 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-06 20:26 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 3:56 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 4:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 11:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 11:58 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 13:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 14:02 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 15:08 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 14:49 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-07 15:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 15:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-07 16:03 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 16:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 16:21 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 17:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 17:24 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 17:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 16:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 17:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 17:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 17:17 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 17:22 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 17:28 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 17:39 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 17:51 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-12-07 18:22 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-08 3:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-12-08 3:56 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 17:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 17:52 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 17:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-07 18:03 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 18:13 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 18:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 18:21 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 18:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 19:02 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-07 20:00 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 22:26 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-08 1:18 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-08 3:35 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-09 2:00 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-09 10:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-07 16:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-08 13:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-09 0:42 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-08 13:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-06 0:29 ` Alan Cox
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