From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759275AbZAGNhx (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:37:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753673AbZAGNhp (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:37:45 -0500 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:35400 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751168AbZAGNho (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:37:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:37:46 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Chris Adams Cc: David Newall , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Bug: Status/Summary of slashdot leap-second crash on new years 2008-2009 Message-ID: <20090107133746.63d2677b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090107133306.GA1506277@hiwaay.net> References: <49614835.7000505@davidnewall.com> <3ae3aa420901042148o1c96985dube8e03085c997a07@mail.gmail.com> <20090105143335.GC18055@mail.local.tull.net> <4962BB13.7060304@davidnewall.com> <20090106025125.GB28431@mail.local.tull.net> <20090106094058.64c89586@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <496479EA.1020207@davidnewall.com> <20090107095419.70b78dc7@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <49648163.9060007@davidnewall.com> <20090107133306.GA1506277@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.12; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > - zoneinfo is for offset from UTC, leap seconds are changes in UTC If you two would stop throwing toys at each other and read the glibc documentation and source you might get somewhere. > - the standards say that time() returns seconds since the epoch in UTC > _except_ explicity NOT including leap seconds Glibc has timezone support for both leap second inclusive ("right" as it calls them) and posix time offsets. Alan