From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@xensource.com, chrisw@sous-sol.org,
zach@vmware.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: lmbench lat_mmap slowdown with CONFIG_PARAVIRT
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:41:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090120134123.GH19505@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090120124500.GE7790@elte.hu>
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 01:45:00PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:26:34PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > * Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking at regressions since 2.6.16, and one is lat_mmap has slowed
> > > > down. On further investigation, a large part of this is not due to a
> > > > _regression_ as such, but the introduction of CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y.
> > > >
> > > > Now, it is true that lat_mmap is basically a microbenchmark, however it
> > > > is exercising the memory mapping and page fault handler paths, so we're
> > > > talking about pretty important paths here. So I think it should be of
> > > > interest.
> > > >
> > > > I've run the tests on a 2s8c AMD Barcelona system, binding the test to
> > > > CPU0, and running 100 times (stddev is a bit hard to bring down, and my
> > > > scripts needed 100 runs in order to pick up much smaller changes in the
> > > > results -- for CONFIG_PARAVIRT, just a couple of runs should show up the
> > > > problem).
> > > >
> > > > Times I believe are in nanoseconds for lmbench, anyway lower is better.
> > > >
> > > > non pv AVG=464.22 STD=5.56
> > > > paravirt AVG=502.87 STD=7.36
> > > >
> > > > Nearly 10% performance drop here, which is quite a bit... hopefully
> > > > people are testing the speed of their PV implementations against non-PV
> > > > bare metal :)
> > >
> > > Ouch, that looks unacceptably expensive. All the major distros turn
> > > CONFIG_PARAVIRT on. paravirt_ops was introduced in x86 with the express
> > > promise to have no measurable runtime overhead.
> > >
> > > ( And i suspect the real life mmap cost is probably even more expensive,
> > > as on a Barcelona all of lmbench fits into the cache hence we dont see
> > > any real $cache overhead. )
> >
> > The PV kernel has over 100K larger text size, nearly 40K alone in mm/ and
> > kernel/. Definitely we don't see the worst of the icache or branch buffer
> > overhead on this microbenchmark. (wow, that's a nasty amount of bloat :( )
> >
> >
> > > Jeremy, any ideas where this slowdown comes from and how it could be
> > > fixed?
> >
> > I had a bit of a poke around the profiles, but nothing stood out.
> > However oprofile counted 50% more cycles in the kernel with PV than with
> > non-PV. I'll have to take a look at the user/system times, because 50%
> > seems ludicrous.... hopefully it's just oprofile noise.
kbuild costs go up a bit (average of 30 builds)
elapsed
non-pv: AVG=53.31s STD=0.99
pv: AVG=53.54s STD=0.94
user
non-pv: AVG=318.63s STD=0.19
pv: AVG=319.33s STD=0.23
system
non-pv: AVG=30.56s STD=0.15
pv: AVG=31.80s STD=0.15
kernel side of the kbuild workload slows down by 4.1%. User time also
increases a bit (probably more cache and branch misses).
> If you have a Core2 test-system could you please try tip/master, which
> also has your do_page_fault-de-bloating patch applied?
Will try to get one to do some runs on.
Thanks,
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-20 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-20 11:05 Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 12:34 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 13:41 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-01-20 14:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 14:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 14:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 14:41 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 15:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 15:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 19:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 20:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-20 20:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 7:27 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 22:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-22 22:28 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-01-22 22:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-22 22:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-22 22:58 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-01-22 23:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-23 0:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-22 22:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-01-23 0:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-27 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 8:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-27 10:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-20 19:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-01-20 19:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:26 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-22 23:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 23:30 ` Zachary Amsden
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