From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mandeep Baines <msb@google.com>
Cc: fweisbec@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rientjes@google.com, mbligh@google.com, thockin@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] softlockup: remove hung_task_check_count
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:23:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090123092306.GB29820@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1fe6c7900901221921m586b129dwf8c3446f897b57f0@mail.gmail.com>
* Mandeep Baines <msb@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > The unlock and lock could be removed and only compiled in if PREEMPT.
> > If the number of tasks isn't bound, the lock might be held too long.
> >
>
> This is incorrect. The adding the lock and unlock will not make the
> system more pre-emptive. To be more pre-emptive you'd want to check
> need_resched() as often as possible.
>
> > It would be kinda funny if hung_task caused a softlockup.
> >
>
> Again. This is incorrect. Rescheduling if need_resched() will prevent
> softlockup.
>
> Not sure what I was thinking this morning;)
>
> However, I am happy with the patch. To give writers a chance, the lock
> should held for bounded time. Holding the lock in khungtask (which is
> running at low scheduler priority) could potentially be delaying
> important work. The longer the lock is held, the bigger the priority
> inversion problem.
not sure i like the whole idea of removing the max iterations check. In
theory if there's a _ton_ of tasks, we could spend a lot of time looping
there. So it always looked prudent to limit it somewhat.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-23 9:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-21 1:46 [PATCH] " Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-21 11:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 13:14 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-22 0:54 ` [PATCH v2] " Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-22 8:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 19:55 ` [PATCH v3] " Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-23 3:21 ` Mandeep Baines
2009-01-23 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-23 10:04 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-24 1:55 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2009-01-24 15:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-26 2:25 ` Mandeep Baines
2009-01-24 2:56 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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