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From: Frank Mehnert <Frank.Mehnert@Sun.COM>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: PFs on pages pinned with get_user_pages()
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:34:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200901301134.07242.frank.mehnert@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1233245483.4495.106.camel@laptop>

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On Thursday 29 January 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 17:03 +0100, Frank Mehnert wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > > That aside, is there any reason you have to avoid scheduling?
> > > > > Otherwise I would just allow so and be done with it.
> > > >
> > > > The reason is that our code expects that to ensure syncing of the CPU
> > > > state with the saved state. I fear it is quite difficult to change
> > > > that...
> > >
> > > Ah, is that what KVM uses the preempt notifiers for? Could you too?
> >
> > Right, that could be an option.
> >
> > We will try to change our code which is a big effort as we try
> > to keep the code as unique as possible between the different
> > hosts we support (Linux, Solaris, Windows, Mac OS X).
> >
> > Just to be sure: There is no other option than disabling interrupts
> > or calling disable_preemption() to prevent scheduling?
>
> Thing is, lock_page() and down_read() require to be able to schedule(),
> so there's no way around that.
>
> So even if there was another way to disable scheduling, you'd still have
> the same problem.

Yes, makes sense.

Back to my initial question: The problem arises for us because we depend
on permanent mappings of memory which were

 - allocated with alloc_pages() or alloc_page()
 - mapped into ring 3 with remap_pfn_range() and
 - pinned with get_user_pages()

There are potential pagefaults when touching into these ring-3-mappings
from ring 0. So I assume we could prevent such pagefaults if we access
that memory from ring-0-mappings, right? Unfortunately, the space for
ring-0-mappings (< 1GB) is smaller than userland (~ 3GB), at least on
32-bit systems.

Kind regards,

Frank
-- 
Dr.-Ing. Frank Mehnert    Sun Microsystems    http://www.sun.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-30 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-29  8:05 Frank Mehnert
2009-01-29 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 13:08   ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-29 13:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 14:02       ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-29 14:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 14:41           ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-29 14:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 16:03               ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-29 16:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-30 10:34                   ` Frank Mehnert [this message]
2009-01-30 10:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 14:56             ` [PATCH] x86: add might_sleep() to do_page_fault() Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 14:59               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 15:02                 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-29 15:03                   ` Ingo Molnar

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