From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:30:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090216203055.GA5135@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234813292.30178.327.camel@laptop>
On 02/16, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:10 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Actually I don't understand the counter/free_list logic.
> >
> > generic_smp_call_function_interrupt:
> >
> > /*
> > * When the global queue is empty, its guaranteed that no cpu
> > * is still observing any entry on the free_list, therefore
> > * we can go ahead and unlock them.
> > */
> > if (!--call_function.counter)
> > list_splice_init(&call_function.free_list, &free_list);
> >
> > I can't see why "its guaranteed that no cpu ...". Let's suppose CPU 0
> > "hangs" for some reason in generic_smp_call_function_interrupt() right
> > before "if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, data->cpumask))" test. Then it is
> > possible that another CPU removes the single entry (which doesn't have
> > CPU 0 in data->cpumask) from call_function.queue.
>
> Then call_function.counter wouldn't be 0, and we would not release the
> list entries.
Why it wouldn't be 0? IOW, do you mean that the spurious CALL_FUNCTION_VECTOR
is not possible?
OK, let's suppose CPUs 1 and 2 both do smp_call_function_many(cpumask_of(0)).
CPU_1 does arch_send_call_function_ipi_mask() and returns.
CPU_2 inserts cfd_data[2] and hangs before arch_send_call_function_ipi_mask().
CPU_0 sees the interrupt and removes both entries.
CPU_2 proceeds, and sends IPI to CPU_0 again.
Now, when CPU_0 sees CALL_FUNCTION_VECTOR interrupt and calls
generic_smp_call_function_interrupt(), there is no work for this CPU,
so the above race is possible even with counter/free_list.
The new entry can be inserted (counter becomes 1) and quickly removed
(counter becomes 0) while CPU 0 still sees it on list.
Unless I misread the patch of course...
> > Now, if that entry is re-added, we can have a problem if CPU 0 sees
> > the partly initialized entry.
>
> Right, so the scenario is that a cpu observes the list entry after we do
> list_del_rcu() -- most likely a cpu not in the original mask, taversing
> the list for a next entry -- we have to wait for some quiescent state to
> ensure nobody is still referencing it.
Yes I see. But if we change generic_smp_call_function_interrupt() to
re-check cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, data->cpumask) under data->lock then
we don't have to wait for quiescent state, afaics. And we have to
take this lock anyway.
Because smp_call_function_many() does mb(), but I can't see how it
can help. Some CPU from ->cpumask can already execute
generic_smp_call_function_interrupt() before we do
arch_send_call_function_ipi_mask().
> > But why do we need counter/free_list at all?
> > Can't we do the following:
> >
> > - initialize call_function_data.lock at boot time
> >
> > - change smp_call_function_many() to initialize cfd_data
> > under ->lock
> >
> > - change generic_smp_call_function_interrupt() to do
> >
> > list_for_each_entry_rcu(data) {
> >
> > if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, data->cpumask))
> > continue;
> >
> > spin_lock(&data->lock);
> > if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, data->cpumask)) {
> > spin_unlock(data->lock);
> > continue;
> > }
> >
> > cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, data->cpumask);
> > refs = --data->refs;
> >
> > func = data->func;
> > info = data->info;
> > spin_unlock(&data->lock);
> >
> > func(info);
> >
> > if (refs)
> > continue;
> >
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > Afaics, it is OK if smp_call_function_many() sees the "unneeded" entry on
> > list, the only thing we must ensure is that we can't "misunderstand" this
> > entry.
> >
> > No?
>
> Hmm, could that not leed to loops, and or missed entries in the
> list-iteration?
How? when we lock data->lock and see this cpu in the ->cpumask,
we can be sure we can proceed?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-16 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-16 16:38 [PATCH 0/4] generic smp helpers vs kmalloc Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 19:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 20:30 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-02-16 20:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 20:49 ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 22:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 22:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 2:15 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 2:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 19:28 ` Q: " Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 21:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 13:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:33 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-02-19 0:12 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 6:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-19 13:11 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18 2:21 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 13:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:43 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 23:55 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-19 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 22:00 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:56 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 23:28 ` Jack Steiner
2009-02-25 3:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 18:25 ` Luck, Tony
2009-03-17 18:16 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-03-18 8:51 ` [tip:x86/x2apic] x86: add x2apic_wrmsr_fence() to x2apic flush tlb paths Suresh Siddha
2009-02-17 12:40 ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 15:40 ` [PATCH] generic-smp: remove kmalloc() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 19:29 ` [PATCH -v4] generic-ipi: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 22:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 21:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 2/4] generic-smp: remove kmalloc usage Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 0:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 4:50 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 0:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 12:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 4:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-19 11:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-02-19 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 3/4] generic-smp: properly allocate the cpumasks Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:17 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 4/4] generic-smp: clean up some of the csd->flags fiddling Peter Zijlstra
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