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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:05:32 +0100
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend
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On Mon 2009-02-16 14:23:41, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 18:20 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > what this needs is a separation between "interface down, all off" and
> > "interface down enough so that link detection works".
> > Some NICs can go all the way down and still do link detection, others
> > cannot. This is obviously something the driver will know, nothing else
> > in the system should know.
> 
> Sure, my point was just that the driver cannot make the decision to go
> all-off (and thus not detect link) without some kind of user setting
> allowing it to do so.

Maybe we need ifconfig eth0 reallyreallydown ?
								Pavel

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