From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754575AbZBRFzv (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751408AbZBRFzn (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:43 -0500 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:59396 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751148AbZBRFzm convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:55:32 -0800 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Arve =?UTF-8?B?SGrDuG5uZXbDpWc=?= Cc: "Woodruff, Richard" , Brian Swetland , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Alan Stern , Kyle Moffett , Oliver Neukum , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , pm list , LKML , Pavel Machek , Nigel Cunningham , mark gross , Uli Luckas , Igor Stoppa , Len Brown , Matthew Garrett Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend Message-ID: <20090217215532.5ae533a6@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20090216145948.6fea81c3@infradead.org> <200902170019.40599.rjw@sisk.pl> <20090216232329.GA15678@srcf.ucam.org> <20090217142001.GB12378@bulgaria.corp.google.com> <20090217064630.688bf639@infradead.org> <20090217145141.GA26158@srcf.ucam.org> <20090217065622.3e0a9956@infradead.org> <13B9B4C6EF24D648824FF11BE896716203771DD342@dlee02.ent.ti.com> <20090217160421.12bc851f@infradead.org> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:11:31 -0800 Arve Hjønnevåg wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Arjan van de Ven > wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:32:46 -0600 > > "Woodruff, Richard" wrote: > > > >> > so use range timers / timer slack for those apps that you do not > >> > trust. That is not a big deal, and solves the issue of timer > >> > wakeups... > >> > >> I not so sure it is that straight forward in practice. End systems > >> integrate a lot of 3rd party software who view performance 1st and > >> have no thought of power. > > > > you know that with the range timers/slack, you can control the > > "rounding" of the timer of the application, right? > > You can *directly* throttle the number of wakeups an application > > causes that way to a value you set. > > I thought the point of range timers was to align multiple timers so > they wakeup at the same time, not to throttle individual timers. it works both ways. -- Arjan van de Ven Intel Open Source Technology Centre For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit http://www.lesswatts.org