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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] vsprintf: unify the format decoding layer for its 3 users
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:32:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090227083212.GE3609@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090226233950.0cfcf883.akpm@linux-foundation.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:12:13 +0100 Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Why does the current ftrace_bprintk() need to hack around in (or
> > > duplicate) vprintk() internals?  It's a bit grubby, but by placing an
> > > upper bound on the number of args, it could simply call vscnprintf()
> > > directly?
> > >
> > 
> > The problem is more in the way to save the parameters.
> > 
> > You have two functions:
> > 
> > _int vbin_printf(u32 *bin_buf, size_t size, const char *fmt, va_list args)
> > 
> > 
> > This one creates a compact binary packet of all args described in the format.
> > The result is a binary set of random values on bin_buf.
> > 
> > 
> > _int bstr_printf(char *buf, size_t size, const char *fmt, const u32 *bin_buf)
> > 
> > 
> > This one lately parses the buffer filled by vbin_printf() and eventually format
> > this binary contiguous set of binary values according to the format in fmt (which is the
> > same that was passed to vbin_printf()
> > The result is formatted in buf.
> > 
> > vbin uses too much specific write-to-bin_buf operations to 
> > allow us to wrap vsnprintf()
> 
> I don't know what vbin is.

a printf variant that outputs not into a string buffer but into 
a binary-values buffer. See earlier mails in this same thread. 
(I Cc:-ed you mid-thread on the assumption that you might be 
interested - but you need to look into the lkml folder to see 
all the context.)

> On little-endian architecture you could do something like
> 
> 	u32 *p = bin_buf;
> 	char *fmt;
> 	u32 a0, a1, a2, a3, a4;
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_32BIT
> 	fmt = (char *)(*bin_buf++);
> #else
> 	<exercise for the reader>
> #endif
> 
> 	a0 = *bin_buf++;
> 	a1 = *bin_buf++;
> 	a2 = *bin_buf++;
> 	a3 = *bin_buf++;
> 	a4 = *bin_buf++;
> 
> 	snprintf(somewhere, some_size, fmt, a0, a1, a2, a3, a4, a5);
> 
> (as I said, ugly).

Yes, and slow as well. This isnt new functionality - this is 
about speedups, using the format string as a data types 
descriptor.

The goal is to get the speedup that Frederic cited:

  ftrace_printk:  duration average: 8812 ns
  ftrace_bprintk: duration average: 2611 ns

The _fastest_ way of tracing is obviously to know about the 
precise argument layout and having a specific C based tracepoint 
stub that directly stuffs that data into the ring buffer. Most 
tracepoints are of such nature.

That does not remove the ease of use of ad-hoc printk-alike 
tracepoints though, and speeding them up 3-fold is a worthwile 
goal.

> but that won't work for 64-bit values on big-endian 
> architectures.  And it's hacky (and might not even work) for 
> 64-bit on little endian.
> 
> Perhaps this is the secret problem which you haven't described 
> yet?

The first submission was a completely standalone implementations 
not touching vsnprintf at all. I suggested to Frederic to try to 
generalize it, to reduce code duplication. That's why this patch 
touches vsnprintf.

We can do it all in kernel/trace/trace.c if the lib/vsnprintf.c 
bits turn out to be ugly or not useful enough. We just thought 
we'd try to make this more generally useful before stuffing it 
into a specific subsystem.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-27  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24  5:17 [PATCH 1/3] add binary printf Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-26 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 17:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-26 17:43     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 17:45       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-26 17:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 18:34           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-26 18:45             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 18:52             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-26 18:56               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 19:05                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-27  6:19                 ` [PATCH][RFC] vsprintf: unify the format decoding layer for its 3 users Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-27  6:46                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27  7:12                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-27  7:39                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27  8:32                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-27  8:45                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27  9:35                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  8:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  8:33                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 15:03                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-28  0:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28  0:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28  8:11                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-28  9:13                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 19:45                         ` [PATCH 1/5] add binary printf Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-28 20:16                         ` [PATCH 2/5] ftrace: infrastructure for supporting binary record Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-02 16:27                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-02 17:39                             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-02-28 21:30                         ` [PATCH 3/5] ftrace: add ftrace_bprintk() Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-02 16:34                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-02 17:45                             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-03-02 17:53                               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-02 18:06                                 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-03-02 18:23                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-02 18:55                                     ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-02-28 22:16                         ` [PATCH 4/5] tracing/core: drop the old ftrace_printk implementation in favour of ftrace_bprintk Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-02 16:37                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-02 17:47                             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-02-28 23:11                         ` [PATCH][RFC] vsprintf: unify the format decoding layer for its 3 users Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-01  2:34                         ` [PATCH 5/5 v3] " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-01  3:31                         ` [PATCH 0/5] Binary ftrace_printk Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-28 16:54                       ` [PATCH][RFC] vsprintf: unify the format decoding layer for its 3 users Linus Torvalds
2009-02-28 17:18                         ` Frederic Weisbecker

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