From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755674AbZB0DOU (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:14:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752477AbZB0DOJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:14:09 -0500 Received: from fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.36]:42341 "EHLO fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752273AbZB0DOH (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:14:07 -0500 From: KOSAKI Motohiro To: "Dominique Toupin" Subject: Re: [PATCH] new irq tracer Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, "Steven Rostedt" , "Mathieu Desnoyers" , "Frederic Weisbecker" , "Jason Baron" , "Masami Hiramatsu" , "Peter Zijlstra" , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , , , In-Reply-To: <806EF3041844884CAC68E1E16026AB8905CE58DA@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <806EF3041844884CAC68E1E16026AB8905CE58DA@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> Message-Id: <20090227121053.152B.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50 [ja] Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:14:01 +0900 (JST) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > > Given this scenario : > > > > > > A telecommunication system runs, but the client notices > > something wrong. > > > They call their service provider. The provider enables tracing > > > _remotely_ on the _production system_ while it's _active in > > the field_. > > > > > > Bam, those few milliseconds interrupt latencies become unacceptable. > > > > > > Hopefully this scenario makes the use-case clearer. The > > problem is not > > > that interrupt latencies would occur while tracing is on, > > but rather > > > that it would happen on a running production system when switching > > > tracing on. This is what is totally unacceptable for this use-case. > > > > > > For more details about such requirements, I'm CCing > > Dominique Toupin > > > from Ericsson who I'm sure would be happy to give more > > details about > > > this if needed. > > > > Hmm, so this system in the field is running Linux with the > > Real-Time Patch? Because if it isn't it will suffer from > > millisecond latencies in normal operation. > > In many cases we don't use Linux real-time, we have many systems that > are soft-real-time an non real-time Linux is good enough. > Agreed, rt-patch seems off topics. we discuss to mainline kernel. Steven, I sitll think nobody use ftrace on production system now yet. Do you know actual production user?