From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: core dom0 support
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:01:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090308110150.GA19151@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49B23907.8030103@goop.org>
* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Have i missed a mail of yours perhaps? I dont have any track of you
>> having posted mmap-perf perfcounters results. I grepped my mbox and the
>> last mail i saw from you containing the string "mmap-perf" is from
>> January 20, and it only includes my numbers.
>
>
> Yes, I think you must have missed a mail. I've attached it for
> reference, along with a more complete set of measurements I
> made regarding the series of patches applied (series ending at
> 1f4f931501e9270c156d05ee76b7b872de486304) to improve pvops
> performance.
Yeah - indeed i missed those numbers - they were embedded in a
spreadsheet document attached to the mail ;)
> My results showed a dramatic drop in cache references (from
> about 300% pvop vs non-pvop, down to 125% with the full set of
> patches applied), but it didn't seem to make much of an effect
> on the overall wallclock time. I'm a bit sceptical of the
> numbers here because, while each run's passes are fairly
> consistent, booting and remeasuring seemed to cause larger
> variations than we're looking at. It would be easy to handwave
> it away with "cache effects", but its not very satisfying.
Well it's the L2 cache references which are being measured here,
and the L2 cache is likely very large on your test-system. So we
can easily run into associativity limits in the L1 cache while
still being mostly in L2 cache otherwise.
Associativity effects do depend on the kernel image layout and
on the precise allocations of kernel data structure allocations
we do during bootup - and they dont really change after that.
> I also didn't find the measurements very convincing because
> the number of CPU cycles and instructions executed count is
> effectively unchanged (ie, the baseline non-pvops vs original
> pvops apparently execute exactly the same number of
> instructions, but we know that there's a lot more going on),
> and with no change as each added patch definitely removes some
> amount of pvops overhead in terms of instructions in the
> instruction stream. Is it just measuring usermode stats? I ran
> it as root, with the command line you suggested ("./perfstat
> -e -5,-4,-3,0,1,2,3 ./mmap-perf 1"). Cache misses wandered up
> and down in a fairly non-intuitive way as well.
It's measuring kernel stats too - and i very much saw the
instruction count change to the tune of 10% or so.
> I'll do a rerun comparing current tip.git pvops vs non-pvops
> to see if I can get some better results.
Thanks - i'll also try your patch on the same system i measured
for my numbers so we'll have some comparison.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-08 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-28 1:59 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Make hvc_xen console work for dom0 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Initialize xenbus " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Set up basic IO permissions " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen-dom0: only selectively disable cpu features Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Add support for the platform_ops hypercall Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Add mtrr_ops support for Xen mtrr Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: disable PAT Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: use _PAGE_IOMAP in ioremap to do machine mappings Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] paravirt/xen: add pvop for page_is_ram Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10 1:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-10 21:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10 22:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-10 22:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: Use host E820 map Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: implement XENMEM_machphys_mapping Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: clear reserved bits in l3 entries given in the initial pagetables Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: add XEN_DOM0 config option Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: allow enable use of VGA console on dom0 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Use specific cpu_has_foo macros instead of generic cpu_has() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Kill some unneccessary includes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Use generic_validate_add_page() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Implement xen_get_free_region() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Add xen_{get,set}_mtrr() implementations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 5:28 ` [PATCH] xen: core dom0 support Andrew Morton
2009-02-28 6:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 7:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 8:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28 8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 9:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 9:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-03-02 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 12:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-02-28 12:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28 18:11 ` [Xen-devel] " Jody Belka
2009-02-28 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 0:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 6:37 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02 8:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 8:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02 9:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-04 17:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 17:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-05 10:59 ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2009-03-05 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 17:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 19:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-04 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-28 16:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-01 23:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02 0:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 0:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02 0:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02 0:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-28 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28 9:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 12:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-07 9:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-08 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-08 21:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-08 22:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 22:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-08 22:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 18:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10 12:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-10 12:49 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-05 13:52 ` Morten P.D. Stevens
2009-03-08 14:25 ` Manfred Knick
2009-03-09 19:51 ` Morten P.D. Stevens
2009-03-09 20:00 ` Morten P.D. Stevens
2009-03-11 19:58 devzero
2009-03-14 1:08 ` Morten P.D. Stevens
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