From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Balazs Scheidler <bazsi@balabit.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: scheduler oddity [bug?]
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:55:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090308185518.GB28169@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236537580.7094.8.camel@marge.simson.net>
* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 18:52 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 16:39 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The problem with your particular testcase is that while one
> > > > > half has an avg_overlap (what we use as affinity hint for
> > > > > synchronous wakeups) which triggers the affinity hint, the
> > > > > other half has avg_overlap of zero, what it was born with, so
> > > > > despite significant execution overlap, the scheduler treats
> > > > > them as if they were truly synchronous tasks.
> > > >
> > > > hm, why does it stay on zero?
> > >
> > > Wakeup preemption. Presuming here: heavy task wakes light
> > > task, is preempted, light task stuffs data into pipe, heavy
> > > task doesn't block, so no avg_overlap is ever computed. The
> > > heavy task uses 100% CPU.
> > >
> > > Running as SCHED_BATCH (virgin source), it becomes sane.
> >
> > ah.
> >
> > I'd argue then that time spent on the rq preempted _should_
> > count in avg_overlap statistics. I.e. couldnt we do something
> > like ... your patch? :)
> >
> > > > if (sleep && p->se.last_wakeup) {
> > > > update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap,
> > > > p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup);
> > > > p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> > > > - }
> > > > + } else if (p->se.avg_overlap < limit && runtime >= limit)
> > > > + update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> >
> > Just done unconditionally, i.e. something like:
> >
> > if (sleep) {
> > runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup;
> > p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> > } else {
> > runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.prev_sum_exec_runtime;
> > }
> >
> > update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> >
> > ?
>
> That'll do it for this load. I'll resume in the a.m., give
> that some testing, and try to remember all the things I was
> paranoid about.
btw., there's room for a cleanup + micro-optimization here too:
it would be nice to change se.last_wakeup and
se.prev_sum_exec_runtime to be the same variable,
se.prev_timestamp or so.
That way we can do a simple:
update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap,
p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.prev_timestamp);
p->se.prev_timestamp = 0;
the latter is needed as we rely on the zeroing here:
kernel/sched.c: if (sleep && p->se.last_wakeup) {
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-08 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-07 17:47 Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-07 18:47 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-08 19:45 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-08 22:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-03-09 3:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 11:19 ` David Newall
2009-03-08 9:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 9:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 10:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-08 13:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 16:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 18:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 18:55 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-09 4:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 6:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 8:02 ` [patch] " Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 10:16 ` David Newall
2009-03-09 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 13:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:00 ` David Newall
2009-03-09 14:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-10 0:20 ` David Newall
2009-03-09 13:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 13:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 15:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 17:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-15 13:53 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-15 17:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-15 18:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 11:55 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-09 15:57 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-10 3:16 ` Mike Galbraith
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