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From: "Gábor Melis" <mega@retes.hu>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: SEGSEGV && uc_mcontext->ip (Was: Signal delivery order)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:20:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200903171120.36606.mega@retes.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090317092546.GA9356@redhat.com>

On Martes 17 Marzo 2009, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 03/17, Gábor Melis wrote:
> > On Martes 17 Marzo 2009, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > But this doesn't look very nice. So, perhaps we can do another
> > > change?
> > >
> > > 	--- arch/x86/mm/fault.c
> > > 	+++ arch/x86/mm/fault.c
> > > 	@@ -177,6 +177,13 @@ static void force_sig_info_fault(int si_
> > > 	 {
> > > 		siginfo_t info;
> > >
> > > 	+	current->saved_sigmask = current->blocked;
> > > 	+	spin_lock_irq(&current->sighand->siglock);
> > > 	+	siginitsetinv(&current->blocked, sigmask(si_signo) |
> > > 	+			sigmask(SIGKILL) | sigmask(SIGSTOP));
> > > 	+	spin_unlock_irq(&current->sighand->siglock);
> > > 	+	set_restore_sigmask();
> > > 	+
> > > 		info.si_signo = si_signo;
> > > 		info.si_errno = 0;
> > > 		info.si_code = si_code;
> > >
> > > But this is a user-visible change, all signals will be blocked
> > > until sigsegv_handler() returns. But with this change
> > > sigsegv_handler() always has the "correct" rt_sigframe.
> >
> > As an application developer what I'd like to have is this:
> > synchronously generated signals are delivered before asynchronously
> > generated ones. That is, if a number of signals are generated but
> > not yet delivered then the synchronously generated ones are
> > delivered first. I guess, in the kernel this would mean that the
> > private/non-private distinction is not enough.
>
> With the change like above, no other signal (except SIGKILL) can be
> delivered until the signal handler returns.

Surely, you don't mean the above literally: it would violate the 
standard to prevent all other signals from being delivered until the 
sigsegv handler returns.

> Probably it is better to just change force_sig_info(), in this case
> SIGFPE/etc will have the same behaviour.

Indeed, uniformity seems preferable to me.

While we are at it, an interesting case is when a synchronously 
generated signal and an asynchronously generated signal - that is also 
of the type that can be synchronously generated - are to be delivered. 
Say we have a fault and a sigsegv generated but some misguided soul 
pthread_kill()s with sigtrap. In this case the sigsegv shall be 
delivered first, and the async sigtrap later.

> > The only thing that
> > worries me is this remark from Oleg
> > (http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=123711058421913&w=2):
> >
> > "But please note that it is still possible to hit
> > is_signal_blocked() even with test_with_kill(), but the probability
> > is very low."
>
> Sorry for confusion. Initially I misread test_with_kill() case, and
> then forgot to remove this part. I think this is not possible.

Thanks for the clarification.

> Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-17 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-14 16:50 Signal delivery order Gábor Melis
2009-03-15  9:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-15 14:40   ` Gábor Melis
2009-03-15 17:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-15 22:06       ` Gábor Melis
2009-03-16  0:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-16  8:34           ` Gábor Melis
2009-03-16 21:13             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-16 22:56               ` Chris Friesen
2009-03-17  4:13                 ` Q: SEGSEGV && uc_mcontext->ip (Was: Signal delivery order) Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-17  4:25                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-17  8:23                   ` Gábor Melis
2009-03-17  9:25                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-17 10:20                       ` Gábor Melis [this message]
2009-03-17 10:43                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-17 15:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 19:20                       ` Q: SEGSEGV && uc_mcontext->ip David Miller
2009-03-18  9:58                       ` Q: SEGSEGV && uc_mcontext->ip (Was: Signal delivery order) Gábor Melis
2009-03-18  7:59                   ` Roland McGrath
2009-03-18  9:02                     ` RT signal queue overflow (Was: Q: SEGSEGV && uc_mcontext->ip (Was: Signal delivery order)) Gábor Melis
2009-03-18 14:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 15:23                         ` Gábor Melis

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