From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Igor Zhbanov <izh1979@gmail.com>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
neilb@suse.de, Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morgan <morgan@kernel.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
SELinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Ответ: VFS, NFS security bug? Should CAP_MKNOD and CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE be added to CAP_FS_MASK?
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:47:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090318164712.GB27906@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237393287.12822.50.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Quoting Stephen Smalley (sds@tycho.nsa.gov):
> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:23 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > But in cap_inode_setxattr, any security.* xattrs are controlled by
> > CAP_SYS_ADMIN. So do you think that this should be changed to a
> > CAP_XATTR_SECURITY capability which can be added to CAP_FS_MASK?
>
> I think that would be preferable to CAP_SYS_ADMIN, yes.
>
> > Or do you think it's ok that fsuid=0 does not allow you to set
> > security.selinux (or security.SMACK64, etc) xattrs when selinux is
> > not compiled in?
>
> Just to be clear, at present fsuid is irrelevant to setting the
> security.* xattrs since it doesn't affect the CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability
> at all, so it all depends on the initial capability state prior to using
> setfsuid(), typically the full capability set.
Right.
> > (You may have already answered this with your EOPNOTSUPP comment, but
> > I want to make sure I understand right)
> >
> > > > Does anyone know what the trusted xattrs are used for?
> > >
> > > Not beyond what attr(5) says about them.
> >
> > Well, if attr(5) says CAP_SYS_ADMIN being needed is the very
> > thing that defines these xattrs, then changing that seems a
> > bigger deal. That really does seem akin to changing kernel-user
> > API.
>
> Perhaps, although it isn't clear that this API is in use by anyone or in
> use in a way that would actually distinguish based on individual
> capability.
>
> But if you were to add CAP_SYS_ADMIN to CAP_FS_MASK in order to ensure
> that setfsuid() does in fact affect all filesystem accesses, how much
> meaningful difference remains between fsuid==0 and euid==0? It
> obviously takes you far afield of only affecting filesystem accesses.
Ok, thanks for time. It's all pretty clear to me now:
CAP_MKNOD and CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE need to be added to the CAP_FS_MASK
because, in 2.0 timeframe, fsuid==0 gave you those privileges.
xattrs didn't exist back then, so the setting of security.* and
trusted.* xattrs doesn't need to be enabled by fsuid==0. So really
CAP_SETFCAP also doesn't need to be added to CAP_FS_MASK either.
I'll send out a patch later today for 2.6, unless Igor wants to
do it (since he's the one who found this originally).
thanks,
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-18 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-11 12:53 Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-11 23:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-12 16:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 16:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-12 16:10 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 19:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-12 20:56 ` Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-12 20:21 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-03-13 17:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-13 18:37 ` Ответ: " Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-13 19:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 18:21 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-16 18:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 21:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-16 22:26 ` Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-16 23:13 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 23:17 ` Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-17 14:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-17 17:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-17 17:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-17 18:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-18 16:17 ` ?????: " Casey Schaufler
2009-03-18 16:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-18 16:21 ` Ответ: " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-18 16:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-03-18 16:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-18 17:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 22:48 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-16 23:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-14 19:20 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-03-16 14:16 ` Igor Zhbanov
2009-03-16 16:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-16 16:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-16 17:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 17:04 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-16 22:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-03-16 22:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-23 13:21 ` unprivileged mounts vs. rmdir (was: VFS, NFS security bug? ...) Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-26 12:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-26 13:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-27 7:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
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