mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Hideo AOKI <haoki@redhat.com>,
	Takashi Nishiie <t-nishiie@np.css.fujitsu.com>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/9] LTTng instrumentation - irq
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:28:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090326182859.GB6399@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903242203480.22830@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > 
> > This third type of tracepoint for IRQs you are talking about is actually
> > what I had in LTTng. I decided to add the irq_next_handler and to add a
> > action field to irq_entry to include the irq handler information needed
> > by Jason.
> > 
> > If we want to do this logically, without thinking about tracer
> > performance impact, we could/should do :
> > 
> > trace_irq_entry(irqno, pt_regs)
> >   for_each_handler() {
> >     trace_irq_handler_entry(action)
> >     action->handler()
> >     trace_irq_handler_exit(ret)
> >   }
> > trace_irq_exit(retval)
> > 
> > And add the irq_entry/irq_exit events to the arch-specific reschedule,
> > tlb flush, local timer irq, as I have in my lttng tree already.
> > 
> > But given the trace_irq_handler_entry/trace_irq_handler_exit events
> > could be combined, given we can record action and ret in the
> > irq_entry/exit events, I decided to remove 2 tracepoints (out of 4) from
> > the single-handler fast path by adding this information to the irq
> > entry/exit events, and decided to combine the irq_handler entry/exit
> > into a single next_handler event, which records the previous ret value
> > and the next action to execute.
> > 
> > On an interrupt-driven workload, it will have a significant impact.
> > (2 events vs 4).
> 
> I thought tracepoints while not active are very low overhead.
> 
> If you only want to use 2 of the 4, would that be just as fast?
> 

Probably, but I was talking about active tracing overhead here.

> > 
> > If we add interrupt threads to the kernel, then we can switch to the
> > following scheme :
> > 
> > * instrumentation of the real interrupt handler :
> > 
> > trace_irq_entry(irqno, pt_regs)
> > 
> > trace_irq_exit(ret)
> > 
> > * instrumentation of the irq threads :
> > 
> > trace_irq_thread_entry()
> > 
> > trace_irq_thread_exit()
> > 
> > I don't see why we should mind trying to make the tracepoints "logical",
> > especially if it hurts performance considerably. Doing these
> > implementation-specific versions of irq tracepoints would provide the
> > best performance we can get when tracing. It's up to the tracers to
> > specialize their analysis based on the underlying IRQ mechanism
> > (non-threaded vs threaded).
> 
> Perhaps we want to make them logical so that other things might hook into 
> these trace points besides a tracer. I do not agree that the code should 
> be modified just to make the trace points faster. The trace points are 
> just hooks into code, and should have no effect when disabled. Once the 
> code starts to change due to better placement of tracepoints for tracers, 
> that's when those trace points should be NACKed.
> 
> -- Steve
> 

If it makes the code messy, then yes, I agree that those tracepoints
should not go in.

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-26 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 15:56 [patch 0/9] LTTng core kernel instrumentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 1/9] IRQ handle prepare for instrumentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 2/9] LTTng instrumentation - irq Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:33   ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 17:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 17:57       ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 19:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 20:11           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 20:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  8:47               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 18:30                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-25  2:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-26 18:27               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-27 22:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-02  2:42                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-25  2:09             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-26 18:28               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-03-27 19:18           ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 19:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27 22:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 3/9] LTTng instrumentation tasklets Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 13:52     ` Chetan.Loke
2009-03-25 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-25 17:37         ` Chetan.Loke
2009-03-25 17:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 4/9] LTTng instrumentation softirq Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 5/9] LTTng instrumentation scheduler fix task migration Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 6/9] LTTng instrumentation - timer Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 19:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 20:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27 22:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 7/9] LTTng instrumentation - kernel Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:33   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  1:13     ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-25  8:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 13:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 8/9] LTTng instrumentation - filemap Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [patch 9/9] LTTng instrumentation - swap Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:51   ` Ingo Molnar

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20090326182859.GB6399@Krystal \
    --to=mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro \
    --cc=fche@redhat.com \
    --cc=fweisbec@gmail.com \
    --cc=haoki@redhat.com \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=jbaron@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca \
    --cc=mhiramat@redhat.com \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=t-nishiie@np.css.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®