From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
systemtap-ml <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 0/4 V3] tracing: kprobe-based event tracer
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:27:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090401142711.GG18677@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D37584.50208@redhat.com>
* Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Here are the patches of kprobe-based event tracer for x86, version
> >> 3. Since this feature seems to attract some developers, I'd like
> >> to push these basic patches into -tip tree so that they can easily
> >> play it.
> >>
> >> This version supports only x86(-32/-64) (If someone is interested
> >> in porting this to other architectures, I'd happy to help :)), and
> >> no respawn-able probe support (this would be better to push -mm
> >> tree.)
> >>
> >> This can be applied on the linux-2.6-tip tree.
> >
> > This bit:
> >
> >> Future items:
> >> - Check insertion point safety by using instruction decoder.
> >
> > is i believe a must-fix-before-merge item.
>
> Hi Ingo,
>
> I agreed. Fortunately, Jim Keniston and I wrote an x86 instruction
> decoder :-) which has been made originally for uprobe andd kprobes
> jump-optimizer.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/utrace-devel/2009-March/msg00031.html
looks cool. Needs to be put somewhere in arch/x86/lib/, provided as
a generic facility, with a Kconfig variable that says that the
architecture supports it and then the kprobes-tracer could make
immediate use of it, right?
>
> > The functionality is genuinely useful, and if used dynamically on
> > the host it can be a lot more versatile and a lot more accessible
> > than a KGDB session - but code patching safety is a must-have.
> >
> > It does not have to be a full decoder, just a simplified decoding
> > run that starts from a known function-symbol address, and works its
> > way down in the function looking at instruction boundaries, and
> > figuring out whether the code patching is safe. If it sees anything
> > it cannot deal with it bails out.
>
> Yeah, that is what I'll do.
>
> > I suspect you could get very good practical results by supporting
> > just a small fraction of the x86 instruction set architecture. If
> > failures to insert a probe safely are printed out in clear terms:
> >
> > Could not insert probe at address 0xc01231234 due to:
> > Unknown instruction: 48 8d 15 db ff ff ff 00 00 00
> >
> > People will fill in the missing ISA bits quickly :-)
> >
> > And people doing:
> >
> > asm(" .byte 0x00, 0x01, 0x02, 0x03;"); /* hehe, I broke the decoder! */
> >
> > ... in kernel .text functions will be talked to in private :)
>
> Aha, that function will get illegal instruction exception :-) even
> without kprobe.
Not if it's under a never-true (not provable to the compiler) branch
condition but i digress :)
> > Can you see any fundamental reason why this couldnt be done?
>
> Nope, because we've done :-)
Cool :)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-01 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-26 22:58 Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-01 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 14:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-01 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-01 17:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-01 17:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 20:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-01 22:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-01 23:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-02 7:36 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-02 15:49 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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