From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] RFC perf_counter: singleshot support
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:51:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090402105151.GB10828@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090402091319.257773792@chello.nl>
* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> By request, provide a way for counters to disable themselves and
> signal at the first counter overflow.
>
> This isn't complete, we really want pending work to be done ASAP
> after queueing it. My preferred method would be a self-IPI, that
> would ensure we run the code in a usable context right after the
> current (IRQ-off, NMI) context is done.
Hm. I do think self-IPIs can be fragile but the more work we do in
NMI context the more compelling of a case can be made for a
self-IPI. So no big arguments against that.
Regarding single-shot - i think the code you posted fails to do the
single-shot aspect: the counter does not stop, to wait for the
signal handler to get its act together.
So i'd suggest to separate the two concepts: add signal support and
single-shot via two attributes. User-space might decide to use
single-shot if it does not want to deal with queued signals or lost
events due to not processing the previous signal fast enough.
Also, user-space might want to use single-shot _without_ signals
perhaps.
And that brings up that user-space might want to generate N events
and stop then, reliably. I.e. single-shot is a specific form of a
"trigger limit".
Plus the question comes up: dont we need an ioctl to let user-space
refill/re-enable the trigger limit?
That is an issue for the signal case as well: we stop the counter
... what restarts it? Does the signal handler have to close the
counter and re-create it just to get the next single-shot event?
So i think we need 3 separate things:
- the ability to set a signal attribute of the counter (during
creation) via a (signo,tid) pair.
Semantics:
- it can be a regular signal (signo < 32),
or an RT/queued signal (signo >= 32).
- It may be sent to the task that generated the event (tid == 0),
or it may be sent to a specific task (tid > 0),
or it may be sent to a task group (tid < 0).
- 'event limit' attribute: the ability to pause new events after N
events. This limit auto-decrements on each event.
limit==1 is the special case for single-shot.
- new ioctl method to refill the limit, when user-space is ready to
receive new events. A special-case of this is when a signal
handler calls ioctl(refill_limit, 1) in the single-shot case -
this re-enables events after the signal has been handled.
Another observation: i think perf_counter_output() needs to depend
on whether the counter is signalling, not on the single-shot-ness of
the counter.
A completely valid use of this would be for user-space to create an
mmap() buffer of 1024 events, then set the limit to 1024, and wait
for the 1024 events to happen - process them and close the counter.
Without any signalling.
Basically the 'limit' allows counter events to be used as a tracer
in essence. So i think it's a nice touch of the whole scheme, and it
should be decoupled from the signal attribute.
Hm?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-02 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-02 9:11 [PATCH 0/6] more perf_counter stuff Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 9:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf_counter: move the event overflow output bits to record_type Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:03 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 22:33 ` [PATCH 1/6] " Corey Ashford
2009-04-02 23:27 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-03 6:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 7:30 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02 9:12 ` [PATCH 2/6] RFC perf_counter: singleshot support Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 10:51 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-02 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 21:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02 12:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 9:12 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf_counter: per event wakeups Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 12:03 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 9:12 ` [PATCH 4/6] perf_counter: kerneltop: update to new ABI Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:03 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 13:35 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 13:59 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:22 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:38 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:51 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 18:32 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-04-02 9:12 ` [PATCH 5/6] perf_counter: add more context information Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 18:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 19:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 12:04 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 12:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 18:25 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 11:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 18:53 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 20:16 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 21:15 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-06 21:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-06 21:33 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-07 7:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-07 16:27 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-02 9:12 ` [PATCH 6/6] perf_counter: update mmap() counter read Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02 12:04 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " Peter Zijlstra
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