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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@texware.it>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:49:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416164927.GB19281@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416143626.GA17683@infradead.org>


* Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 04:27:58PM +0200, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> > Replace ths BKL in sys_mount()/sys_umount() syscalls with a regular mutex.
> 
> Could you try to explain what these actuall try to protect?

They dont really protect anything - the patch is wrong and 
equivalent to a plain removal of the BKL.

The only case we found to ever matter in practice is NFS: it really 
wants to get rid of the BKL in nfsd_get_sb(). So pushing down the 
BKL lock into per filesystems and then removing it from NFS should 
do the trick.

Would be nice to have some tentative Ack (or, a tentative 
non-immediate-NAK) from Al before we go touch a lot of filesystems 
though. Stupid dont-waste-human-effort considerations and stuff.

For us, the much simpler solution would be to drop the BKL in 
nfsd_get_sb() and go on with life without to touch a dozen or so 
filesystems. Alessio, mind trying that too, is it a solution for 
your testcase?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-16 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16 14:27 Alessio Igor Bogani
2009-04-16 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 16:49   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-16 17:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 17:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:05       ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 23:56   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17  0:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:13       ` Al Viro
2009-04-17  0:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:38           ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 16:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 17:31                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-17 18:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 18:44                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-22 17:28                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-17 18:08                   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 18:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:41                 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 17:34               ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Al Viro

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