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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: fresh data was Re: [PATCH] X86-32: Let gcc decide whether to inline memcpy was Re: New x86 warning
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:36:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090423063625.GB9833@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87skjzoqah.fsf_-_@basil.nowhere.org>


* Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> writes:
> 
> >> > Quick test here:
> >> 
> >> How about you just compile the kernel with gcc-3.2 and compare the number 
> >> of calls to memcpy before-and-after instead? That's the real test.
> >
> > I waited over 10 minutes for the full vmlinux objdumps to finish. sorry lost
> > patience. If someone has a fast disassembler we can try it. I'll leave
> > them running over night, maybe there are exact numbers tomorrow.
> >
> > But from a quick check (find -name '*.o' | xargs nm | grep memcpy) there are
> > very little files which call it with the patch, so there's some
> > evidence that there isn't a dramatic increase.
> 
> I let the objdumps finish over night. [...]

objdump -d never took me more than a minute - let alone a full 
night. You must be doing something really wrong there. Looking at 
objdump -d is an essential, unavoidable component of my workflow 
with x86 architecture patches, you need to find a way to do it 
efficiently if you want to send patches for this area of the kernel.

> [...] On my setup (defconfig + some additions) there are actually 
> less calls to out of line memcpy/__memcpy with the patch. I see 
> only one for my defconfig, while there are ~10 without the patch. 
> So it makes very little difference. The code size savings must 
> come from more efficient code generation for the inline case. I 
> haven't investigated that in detail though.
> 
> So the patch seems like a overall win.

It's a clear loss here with GCC 3.4, and it took me less than 5 
minutes to figure that out.

With what precise compiler version did you test (please paste the 
gcc -v output), and could you send me the precise .config you used, 
and describe the method you used to determine the number of 
out-of-line memcpy calls? I'd like to double-check your numbers.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-23  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-22  6:46 Jeff Garzik
2009-04-22  7:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22  8:45   ` [PATCH] X86-32: Let gcc decide whether to inline memcpy was " Andi Kleen
2009-04-22 18:00     ` [tip:x86/asm] x86: use __builtin_memcpy() on 32 bits tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2009-04-22 20:56     ` [PATCH] X86-32: Let gcc decide whether to inline memcpy was Re: New x86 warning Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 21:15       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-22 21:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 22:04           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  6:08             ` fresh data was " Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  6:36               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-23  7:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  6:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23  7:43               ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-22 23:49     ` Joe Damato
2009-04-23  1:48       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-23 21:22         ` Joe Damato
2009-04-23 22:09           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-24  8:44           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  6:09       ` Andi Kleen

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