From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757373AbZEALEa (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 May 2009 07:04:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754639AbZEALEW (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 May 2009 07:04:22 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:40777 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755199AbZEALEV (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 May 2009 07:04:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:03:59 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Greg KH Cc: Andrew Morton , Kay Sievers , linux-kernel , Jan Blunck Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Message-ID: <20090501120359.05bacb48@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090501065527.GA19773@kroah.com> References: <1241097822.2516.3.camel@poy> <20090430222900.c13b63d5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090501061701.GB19234@kroah.com> <20090430234312.a63fa5cf.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090501065527.GA19773@kroah.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Boot speed, boot speed, boot speed. > > Oh, and reduction in complexity in init scripts, and saving embedded > systems a lot of effort to implement a dynamic /dev properly (have you > _seen_ what Android does to keep from having to ship udev? It's > horrible...) This is nothing to do with udev or the kernel side of things. Your argument seems to be "Remove a user space problem and make it a kernel one stuffed in unpageable RAM and less flexible" It seems to me your actual problem is "my tools suck" and the fix for that is to fix the tools not add more random kernel junk.