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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Reduce the default HZ value
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:24:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090507212428.2fbe5cfa@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905071555040.14051@qirst.com>

> Reducing the number of application interruptions by a factor of 10 is not
> pointless. The lower HZ becomes the more useless it will become for the
> users of jiffies because they will have to create timers and use time
> intervals if the HZ intervals become too large.

More like "the more your performance goes down the toilet" - as
everything is rounded up.

If you want to follow that argument set the default HZ to 1. Then see if
it has any side effects.

Given HZ=1 doesn't work, its fairly clear that all you are doing is
frobbing pointlessly with defaults that have been evolved over about 15
years because they work.

Whereas if you make jiffies jiffies() and it reads a timer it puts the
pain in the right place and you can begin to make actual progress to
making things work properly.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-07 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-04 18:44 Alok Kataria
2009-05-05 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-05 21:44   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-05 22:09     ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-05 22:33       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-05 23:37         ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-07 14:09         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 15:12           ` Alan Cox
2009-05-05 21:57   ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-07 14:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 15:14       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 15:20         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 15:30         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 15:40           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 16:55           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-07 17:09             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 17:55               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-07 19:51                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 20:03                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-07 20:30                     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 16:37         ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-07 17:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:20             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:40                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:54               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 17:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 19:51                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 17:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 17:38               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 18:01                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 18:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 19:06                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 19:53                     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 19:56                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 20:24                         ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-05-07 20:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-08 10:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-08 12:50                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-08 14:16                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-08 15:06                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-07 17:18           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:34               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 17:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 17:50             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 19:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-07 19:38                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-07 21:01             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 16:35     ` Chris Snook
2009-05-07 16:56       ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-07 20:29         ` Chris Snook
2009-05-07 20:34           ` Alan Cox
2009-05-07 22:16             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-05-07 22:19             ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-08  9:31               ` Alan Cox
2009-05-12 19:45 devzero
2009-05-13 23:30 ` Alok Kataria
2009-05-14 20:25 devzero
2009-05-14 20:29 ` Alan Cox

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