From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758533AbZEKRz6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 13:55:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752573AbZEKRzq (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 13:55:46 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:34327 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751318AbZEKRzp (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 13:55:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:55:13 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Kay Sievers Cc: Arjan van de Ven , "Eric W. Biederman" , Peter Zijlstra , Greg KH , Andrew Morton , Fabio Comolli , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Message-ID: <20090511185513.45ea4754@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <20090509143742.GA27663@kroah.com> <20090511115504.568c9a92@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511141057.24a5f8ed@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511165317.3da5326f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511094151.6014cafb@infradead.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > The same applies when you leave initiramfs, the in-initramfs udevd > copy is killed, and the one from the real root is started. You may > miss events in-between, and need to run a full coldplug again, not > only to apply the policy, but also to make sure that all nodes are > there. The policy can run in the background for most things just fine, > the missing node may cause trouble. What a strange behaviour. Why not run a single udev instance inside the tmpfs you are turning into dev and will then attach to the real rootfs when it appears ? You only need to build /dev once. > Yeah, and I mentioned many other ways this is useful, to do stuff in > parallel, to be able to rescue, and to have custom systems which do But there are lots where it is not - and those you've mentioned where it might be seem rather stretched at best.