From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759040AbZEKSlX (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752646AbZEKSlN (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:13 -0400 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:49323 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752573AbZEKSlN (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2009 14:41:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:40:26 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Kay Sievers Cc: Arjan van de Ven , "Eric W. Biederman" , Peter Zijlstra , Greg KH , Andrew Morton , Fabio Comolli , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Message-ID: <20090511194026.79ecd3aa@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <20090509143742.GA27663@kroah.com> <20090511115504.568c9a92@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511141057.24a5f8ed@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511165317.3da5326f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090511094151.6014cafb@infradead.org> <20090511185513.45ea4754@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Right, but the information you need for all other use cases is already > there today in /sys. This is about something new, so there is not a > competition about features, just an option to solve a problem in a > different way, which we prefer over the current one. "we". You don't speak for me or a lot of people on this one. Running a second udevd seems to be overkill. You know which nodes you've created so far so you know which series of rules to reapply. > just an option to solve a problem in a different way There are thousands of kernel contributors. If they all submit everything that solves their problem, their way we'd drown in the resulting mess. devfs was Richard Gooch's way perhaps we should add that back as well, and a variant that uses a data file for me, and a different one for Arjan. We could let everyone invent new arbitary APIs for all their device drivers so you need a different app for each pointing device or each light level sensor .... That way lies *madness*.