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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: paul@mad-scientist.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump: Retry writes where appropriate
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:49:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090531164925.GA22309@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090531173144.0a552386@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 05:31:44PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> O> Perhaps removing the "|| r == -EINTR" part would make both of you
> > happy?  He gets the reliability on pipes, you keep the interrupt on
> > signals.
> 
> How does that improve things.

I can very well misunderstand the code, but if you dump to a pipe,
what you can write() in one call is limited to the pipe buffer
capacity, isn't it?  Something like 16 pages iirc.  So you get a short
write and nothing there seems to call write again.

I've also had short writes on normal filesystems (nfs at least,
reiserfs and ext3 too I seem to remember, but it was a 2.6.20-era
kernel) for writes bigger than 2G.  So I'm not sure a dump of a 2G+
process would actually work.


> There is a second problem anyway. Suppose something is causing a
> continual stream of signal events - what guarantees it makes progress ?

Can a signal end up in anything else than EINTR?


> The only source of signals during a dump should be external ones. Far
> better would be to set some kind of defined signal mask during the dump
> (say SIGPIPE, SIGINT, SIGQUIT) ? I agree with Paul's patch in the sense
> we don't want spurious SIGIO events or similar spoiling a dump.

But Paul's patch is not just about signals, it's about EAGAIN and
short writes too.

  OG.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-31 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-31  5:33 Paul Smith
2009-05-31 10:18 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-31 14:03   ` Olivier Galibert
2009-05-31 16:31     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-31 16:49       ` Olivier Galibert [this message]
2009-05-31 17:46       ` Paul Smith
2009-05-31 16:56     ` Paul Smith
2009-06-01 16:12   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 16:41     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-01 17:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 17:46         ` Alan Cox
2009-06-01 18:23           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 20:38             ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-01 22:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 23:02                 ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-02  0:08                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-03  7:09                     ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-04  3:15                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-04 17:14                         ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-23 17:31                           ` Paul Smith
2009-06-23 19:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 19:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-02  8:21                 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-02 15:29                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-03  7:15                     ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-03 14:05               ` Paul Smith
2009-06-01 17:36     ` Paul Smith
2009-06-01 17:49       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-01 18:39         ` Paul Smith
2009-06-01 19:02           ` Alan Cox
2009-06-01 19:09             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 19:06               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-01 19:14                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 19:51             ` Paul Smith
2009-06-01 20:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 21:34               ` Alan Cox

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