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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND] [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev
Date: Sat,  6 Jun 2009 23:36:41 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090606233056.7B9F.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2936A7.9070309@gmail.com>


sorry for late responce.
I wonder why I and Wu don't contain Cc list in this thread.


> Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
> > At 09:36 09/06/01, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:35:55 +0900 Hisashi Hifumi 
> >> <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I added blk_run_backing_dev on page_cache_async_readahead
> >>> so readahead I/O is unpluged to improve throughput on 
> >>> especially RAID environment. 
> >> I skipped the last version of this because KOSAKI Motohiro
> >> <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> said "Please attach blktrace analysis ;)".
> >>
> >> I'm not sure why he asked for that, but he's a smart chap and
> >> presumably had his reasons.
> >>
> >> If you think that such an analysis is unneeded, or isn't worth the time
> >> to generate then please tell us that.  But please don't just ignore the
> >> request!
> > 
> > Hi Andrew.
> > 
> > Sorry for this.
> > 
> > I did not ignore KOSAKI Motohiro's request.
> > I've got blktrace output for both with and without the patch, 
> > but I just did not clarify the reason for throuput improvement
> > from this result.
> > 
> > I do not notice any difference except around unplug behavior by dd.
> > Comments?
> 
> Pardon my ignorance on the global issues concerning the patch, but 
> specifically looking at the traces generated by blktrace leads one to 
> also note that the patched version may generate inefficiencies in other 
> places in the kernel by reducing the merging going on. In the unpatched 
> version it looks like (generally) that two incoming bio's are able to be 
> merged to generate a single I/O request. In the patched version - 
> because of the quicker unplug(?) - no such merging is going on. This 
> leads to more work lower in the stack (twice as many I/O operations 
> being managed), perhaps increased interrupts & handling &c. [This may be 
> acceptable if the goal is to decrease latencies on a per-bio basis...]
> 
> Do you have a place where the raw blktrace data can be retrieved for 
> more in-depth analysis?

I think your comment is really adequate. In another thread, Wu Fengguang pointed
out the same issue.
I and Wu also wait his analysis.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-06 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-29  5:35 Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-01  1:04   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-05 15:15     ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-06-06 14:36       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-06-06 22:45         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 19:04           ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-20  3:55             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20 12:29               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29  9:34                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 10:26                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 10:55                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 12:54                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 12:58                         ` Bart Van Assche
2009-06-29 13:01                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 13:04                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 13:13                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 13:28                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:43                               ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 14:51                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:56                                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 15:37                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 14:00                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 14:21                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:01                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:37                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
     [not found]                                   ` <20090630010414.GB31418@localhost>
2009-06-30 10:54                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-01 13:07                                       ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-01 18:12                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-03  9:14                                       ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-03 10:56                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-03 12:41                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-03 12:46                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-04 15:19                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-06 11:12                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-06 14:37                                               ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-06 17:48                                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-07  6:49                                                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
     [not found]                                                     ` <4A5395FD.2040507@vlnb.net>
     [not found]                                                       ` <a0272b440907080149j3eeeb9bat13f942520db059a8@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-08 12:40                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-10  6:32                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-10  8:43                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-10  9:27                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-13 12:12                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-13 12:36                                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-13 12:47                                                                     ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-13 12:52                                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-14 18:52                                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-15  7:06                                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-14 18:52                                                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-15  6:30                                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-16  7:32                                                                       ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-16 10:36                                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-16 14:54                                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-16 16:03                                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-17 14:15                                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-17 18:23                                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-20  7:20                                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-22  8:44                                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-27 13:11                                                                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-28  9:51                                                                                     ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-28 19:07                                                                                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-29 12:48                                                                                         ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-31 18:32                                                                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-08-03  9:15                                                                                             ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-08-03  9:20                                                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-08-03 11:44                                                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-15 20:52                                                           ` Kurt Garloff
2009-07-16 10:38                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-30 10:22                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 10:55                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 13:00                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22 20:58 ` Andrew Morton
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2009-05-22  0:09 [RESEND][PATCH] " Hisashi Hifumi

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