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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Joseph Cihula <joseph.cihula@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@linux.intel.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	jbeulich@novell.com, peterm@redhat.com, gang.wei@intel.com,
	shane.wang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v4][PATCH 2/2] intel_txt: Intel(R) TXT and tboot kernel support
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:11:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090619201159.35d259bb@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33858.1245433922@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

> "Somebody has screwed with this kernel image, and you're not booting what you
> thought you were booting."

So I screw with your user space - you can't measure enough to make it
save you in a general setup. Too much I can hit changes each boot.

For a tiny number of very special cases that are highly controlled it has
potential uses. Some of those are evil some are ones with meaningful uses
(eg ATM machines) - although attacks there have included hardware attacks
outside the PC components too.

Personally (and I'm sure Intel disagrees with me) my bigger work is that
I can't verify that the magic block of code for tboot is correct.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-19 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-05 21:38 Joseph Cihula
2009-06-12  5:12 ` James Morris
2009-06-12 10:23   ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-19 15:05   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 17:52     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-06-19 19:11       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-06-19 20:27         ` Alan Cox
2009-06-22  1:33           ` James Morris
2009-06-19 21:22       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 18:34     ` Chris Wright
2009-06-22  1:54       ` James Morris
2009-06-26 21:30         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 22:46           ` James Morris
2009-08-24  9:43             ` Pavel Machek

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