From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/pci: don't use crs for root if we only have one root bus
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:03:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090625070347.GB2676@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090624170114.385322df@jbarnes-g45>
* Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> wrote:
> > [ There's a difference between "we're supposed to find and fix bugs
> > in the -rc series", and "I release known-buggy -rc1's since we're
> > supposed to fix it later". For similar reasons, I hate pulling
> > known-buggy stuff during the merge window - it's ok if it shows
> > itself to be buggy _later_, but if people send me stuff that they
> > know is buggy as they send it to me, then that's a problem. ]
>
> Yeah, 100% agreed. I didn't hear any reports until after people
> started using your tree, so I think this case was handled
> correctly: push something that *seems* ok upstream, but with eyes
> wide open for the possibility we'd need to revert.
There's only one small gripe i have with the handling of it: the
timing. "9e9f46c: PCI: use ACPI _CRS data by default" was written
and committed on June 11th, two days _after_ the merge window
opened.
That's way too late for maybe-broken changes to x86 lowlevel details
(especially if it touches hw-environmental interaction - which is
very hard to test with meaningful coverage), and it's also pretty
much the worst moment to solicit testing from people who are busy
getting their stuff to Linus and who are busy testing out any of the
unexpected interactions and bugs.
So this was, to a certain degree, a predictable outcome. Trees in
the Linux "critical path" of testing (core kernel, x86, core
networking, very common drivers, PCI, driver core, VFS, etc.) should
generally try to cool down 1-2 weeks before the merge window -
because breakage there can do a lot of knock-on cascading damage.
Two weeks is not a lot of time and the effects of showstopper bugs
get magnified disproportionately.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-25 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20090624122433.GA24781@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20090624145119.GA12664@elte.hu>
2009-06-24 21:46 ` [PATCH] x86: fix _CRS resources return handling Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 21:48 ` [PATCH] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan child -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 22:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 0:03 ` Yinghai
2009-06-24 22:58 ` [PATCH] x86/pci: don't use crs for root if we only have one root bus Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 23:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 23:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-24 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 0:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 7:03 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-25 7:28 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 16:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 0:00 ` Gary Hade
2009-06-25 2:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/pci: fix boundary checking when using root CRS Yinghai Lu
2009-06-25 2:02 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan childs -v3 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-25 3:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan childs -v4 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-30 1:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/pci: fix boundary checking when using root CRS Jesse Barnes
2009-06-30 18:04 ` Gary Hade
2009-06-30 21:00 ` Jesse Barnes
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