From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Cc: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jeremy@jeremyms.com>,
tuxonice-devel@lists.tuxonice.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Rafael Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [TuxOnIce-devel] RFC: Suspend-to-ram cold boot protection by encrypting page cache
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:44:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090704024432.GB1345@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4B27D0.8020906@crca.org.au>
> > Specifically, suppose right at the stage in tuxonice hibernation when
> > the kernel as about to write the page cache pages to disk, it instead
> > just encrypts in place those pages, clears the encryption key, then
> > waits for the userspace helper to pass it back the key again to use to
> > decrypt the pages.
> >
> > In fact it would seems that actually entering S3 is mostly irrelevant in
> > terms of the implementation.
> >
> > Tuoxnice already has code to deal with interfacing with a userspace
> > helper that is kept unfrozen (and its pages handled specially) while
> > everything else is frozen and the page cache is overwritten, which is
> > precisely what is needed for this idea. In particular, it seems that an
> > implementation of the idea I proposed would look a lot like tuxonice
> > with a powerdown mode of entering S3, just that instead of writing the
> > page cache to disk, it is encrypted in place. I suppose it could well be that
> > all of the facilities used by tuxonice to do this are actually already
> > in the kernel, in which case it is indeed not relevant to tuxonice, but
> > it is not clear that the uswsusp infrastructure has everything that is
> > needed.
>
> You're absolutely right - TuxOnIce could be modified to do that, quite
> easily.
>
> As far as the possibility of using uswsusp goes, I'd like to get
> Rafael's input there - he knows it much better than I do (explicitly
> adding him to the ccs).
I believe uswsusp could be used rather easily. Just modify s2disk to
encrypt image in ram without writing it out, then decrypt it from ram
and resume... it should be interesting hack.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-08 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-01 6:07 Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-01 6:24 ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-07-01 6:43 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-01 9:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-07-01 15:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-01 20:57 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-01 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-01 22:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-07-01 23:06 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-02 5:14 ` U Kuehn
2009-07-02 5:47 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-02 16:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-04 2:44 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-07-08 10:47 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-04 2:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-08 11:09 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-09 10:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-10 7:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2009-07-11 22:10 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-01 12:21 ` Jens Gustedt
2009-07-01 20:40 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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