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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	DRI <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: DRM drivers with closed source user-space: WAS  [Patch 0/3] Resubmit VIA Chrome9 DRM via_chrome9 for upstream
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:33:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090720233340.GA5522@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090721002835.5a85a2aa@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:28:35AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > I think "tightly integrated" could do with some clarification here. 
> > qcserial was accepted despite not being functional without a closed 
> > userspace component - an open one's since been rewritten to allow it to 
> 
> It got as far as staging with a good deal of complaint. I am not sure it
> would have gotten further unfixed (with my serial/tty maintainers hat
> on ;)). That however was about firmware - so a lot less tightly coupled.

? It was merged directly into drivers/usb/serial.

> > work. Do we define "tightly integrated" as "likely to cross the GPL 
> > line" (potentially the case with Poulsbo, not the case with qcserial), 
> > or is it a pragmatic issue? What about specialised hardware drivers that 
> > only have closed applications?
> 
> Ultimately - ask a lawyer, ultimately this is a question about works and
> copyright boundaries. If the hardware has only some specific proprietary
> app then it sounds to me like it's not a general kernel interface so
> probably isn't a good interface anyway, let alone what the code may do.

I was more wondering about whether we had issues with code that wasn't a 
GPL concern but still depended on a closed component.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-20 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-20 13:38 Thomas Hellström
2009-07-20 13:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-20 15:02   ` Thomas Hellström
2009-07-20 15:16     ` Alan Cox
2009-07-20 15:52       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-07-20 15:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-20 16:02           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-07-20 16:37           ` Alan Cox
2009-07-20 23:28         ` Alan Cox
2009-07-20 23:33           ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-07-20 19:13     ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-07-20 20:19       ` Thomas Hellström
2009-07-20 20:43         ` Dave Airlie
2009-07-20 21:40         ` Stephane Marchesin
2009-07-20 22:31           ` Dave Airlie
2009-07-20 14:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-20 14:52   ` Alan Cox
2009-07-20 15:07   ` Thomas Hellström
2009-07-20 19:51   ` Dave Airlie
2009-07-20 14:09 ` Andrey Panin
2009-07-20 19:03   ` Krzysztof Halasa

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