From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752644AbZHCHXM (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:23:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752387AbZHCHXL (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:23:11 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:41715 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752359AbZHCHXK (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:23:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:22:55 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: KOSAKI Motohiro Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , Steven Rostedt , Zhaolei , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Add walltime support for ring-buffer Message-ID: <20090803072255.GB27581@elte.hu> References: <20090728103227.D7FB.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> <20090728015351.GF5147@nowhere> <20090728105931.D801.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090728105931.D801.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-ELTE-SpamScore: -1.5 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-1.5 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.2.5 -1.5 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > It can. but I don't think it is sufficient. On flight recorder > use-case, The tracing run more than one year. And, Administrator > only see last N sec log. (previous logs were overwritten by > ring-buffer go-around) That's definitely something we want to enable ASAP. I'm wondering why a single u64 timestamp is not enough to express the full, absolute range of time elapsed since bootup, in nanoseconds. That would make walltime a matter of pretty-printing only - we'd have to convert the u64 nsec timestamp into a walltime format, right? In fact we could change all the timestamps to be standardized along 'nanoseconds elapsed since 1970' or so - not nanoseconds since the last bootup. That still fits just fine within 64 bits - u64 nanoseconds has a scope of 500+ years. Ingo