From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755786AbZHHKm6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:42:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755347AbZHHKm5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:42:57 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:53853 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755293AbZHHKm4 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:42:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:42:51 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Joe Perches Cc: Russell King , David John , Erik Mouw , kernel list Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Message-ID: <20090808104251.GE9978@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20090804100051.GA17106@elf.ucw.cz> <20090804223922.GD18365@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090806125751.7d0253ce@nij0285> <20090806113104.GK31370@elf.ucw.cz> <20090806120826.GC27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <4A7ACC8D.7030706@xenontk.org> <20090806124048.GD27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1249563730.10297.13.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1249563730.10297.13.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu 2009-08-06 06:02:10, Joe Perches wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:40 +0100, Russell King wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:59:01PM +0530, David John wrote: > > > I think the basis of Pavel's complaint is that the ARM mailing list is > > > difficult to work with for casual users who might want to forward say, > > > a simple bug report. > > If only it were as simple as that. > [] > > I'm not willing to spend vast sums of money in > > the legal domain to sort this issue out. > > Neither am I willing to take a chance. > > What chances are those? > > > And no, moving the list outside the EU domain doesn't relieve any > > of the lawful issues unless (as I understand the law) someone outside > > the EU were to run the list. And people would have to independently > > subscribe to it - I wouldn't be able to export the existing subscriber > > list outside the EU. > > I suspect a vger based ARM list would not require you to "run" it. > > Perhaps you overestimate the value of the arm subscriber database > as well as the work involved to subscribe to a list. > > Adding a "click this to subscribe to the new list" to the mailing > list trailer would work reasonably well. Actually, "subscribing" new vger list as a receiver for lakml should do the trick... for even easier migration. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html