From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754861AbZHNLGh (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:06:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754819AbZHNLGg (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:06:36 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:59408 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754816AbZHNLGf (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:06:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:06:25 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Russell King Cc: kernel list , davem@davemloft.net, mouw@nl.linux.org Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Message-ID: <20090814110625.GE32418@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20090804100051.GA17106@elf.ucw.cz> <20090804222840.GC18365@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090806100700.GC31370@elf.ucw.cz> <20090806104421.GA27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090806110246.GI31370@elf.ucw.cz> <20090806115553.GB27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090806115553.GB27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu 2009-08-06 12:55:53, Russell King wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:02:47PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > On Thu 2009-08-06 11:44:21, Russell King wrote: > > > > > It appears the answer to that is no. People are free to subscribe to > > > the one on vger, where they won't have to "put up" with me. However, > > > it seems that people much prefer to subscribe to my lists, because that > > > seems to be where the expertise is. > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > (a) when ever you have a problem, you go shouting and making public > > > accusations without trying first to resolve the problem in private. > > > > When I tried asking in private, I was told to stop complaining or loose > > my mailing list subscription. I'd prefer not to make that mistake again. > > ... in response to your whinging about the "headers matched a filter > rule" mailman whining. I had enough of your whinging and whining in > April, and I've certainly had enough now. But guess what? The > problem eventually got fixed after working out what was going on. So you are fixing problems with your mailing lists. Cool. > > > I wonder, do you even know what happened to the message you're whinging > > > about? Would you prefer that your message was silently dropped into > > > /dev/null instead of having a chance of the issue being resolved? It > > > strikes me that _that_ would be a better solution than all your > > > whinging. > > > > So... your solution to broken mailing list is to silence everyone who > > complains? > > No. My solution would have been to fix the mailing list had you not > made this a public issue in an offensive way. When I asked you privately last time, you threatened unsubscribing me. I don't want to face that again, so yes I prefer public communication. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html