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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: stephane eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	robert.richter@amd.com, paulus@samba.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	mpjohn@us.ibm.com, cel@us.ibm.com, cjashfor@us.ibm.com,
	mucci@eecs.utk.edu, terpstra@eecs.utk.edu,
	perfmon2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	mtk.manpages@googlemail.com, roland@redhat.com
Subject: Re: F_SETOWN_TID: F_SETOWN was thread-specific for a while
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:45:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090818114533.GA32289@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c86c4470908171526j60add584qfc635ba91cd4df46@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/18, stephane eranian wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Oleg Nesterov<oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Sorry for late reply...
> >
> > On 08/10, stephane eranian wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Oleg Nesterov<oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if it is safe to change the historical behaviour.
> >> >
> >> Don't need to change it.
> >
> > Good,
> >
> >> But for SIGIO, if you see SA_SIGINFO, then pass the si_fd.
> >
> > But this means we do change the behaviour ;) Confused.
> >
> I meant do not remove F_SETSIG and its side-effect on si_fd.

Ah, now I see what you meant.

> > In any case. We should not look at SA_SIGINFO at all. If sys_sigaction() was
> > called without SA_SIGINFO, then it doesn'matter if we send SEND_SIG_PRIV or
> > siginfo_t with the correct si_fd/etc.
> >
> What's the official role of SA_SIGINFO? Pass a siginfo struct?
>
> Does POSIX describe the rules governing the content of si_fd?
> Or is si_fd a Linux-ony extension in which case it goes with F_SETSIG.

Not sure I understand your concern...

OK. You suggest to pass siginfo_t with .si_fd/etc when we detect SA_SIGINFO.

But, in that case we can _always_ pass siginfo_t, regardless of SA_SIGINFO.
If the task has a signal handler and sigaction() was called without
SA_SIGINFO, then the handler must not look into *info (the second arg of
sigaction->sa_sigaction). And in fact, __setup_rt_frame() doesn't even
copy the info to the user-space:

	if (ka->sa.sa_flags & SA_SIGINFO) {
		if (copy_siginfo_to_user(&frame->info, info))
			return -EFAULT;
	}

OK? Or I missed something?

> > And again, this is even documented. The change is trivial but user-space
> > visible, it may confuse the (stupid) app which uses SIGIO + SA_SIGINFO
> > without F_SETSIG.
> >
> That would be an app that uses SIGINFO and fiddles with si_fd which has no
> defined content. What kind of app would that be?

The stupid app. But it is always unsafe to make the user-visible changes
without good reasons. Even when we fix the bug (and the current code is not
buggy) sometimes we have "this patch breaks my app or test-case!" reports.
If nothing else, we can break the test-case which simply does

	void sigio_handler(int sig, siginfo_t *info, void *u)
	{
		assert(info->si_code == 0 && info->si_code = 0x80);
	}

Once again: this is _documented_ !

And we can't set .si_fd = fd whithout changing .si_code, this will break
copy_siginfo_to_user().

Or. Suppose that some app does:

	void io_handler(int sig, siginfo_t *info, void *u)
	{
		if ((info->si_code & __SI_MASK) != SI_POLL) {
			// RT signal failed! sig MUST be == SIGIO
			recover();
		} else {
			do_something(info->si_fd);
		}
	}

	int main(void)
	{
		sigaction(SIGRTMIN, { SA_SIGINFO, io_handler });
		sigaction(SIGIO,    { SA_SIGINFO, io_handler });
		...
	}

This is correct. But if we change the current behaviour, this app won't
be able to detect the overflow.

> It would seem natural that in the siginfo passed to the handler of SIGIO, the
> file descriptor be passed by default. That is all I am trying to say here.

Completely agreed! I was always puzzled by send_sigio_to_task(). I was never
able to understand why it looks so strange.

So, I think it should be

	static void send_sigio_to_task(struct task_struct *p,
				       struct fown_struct *fown,
				       int fd,
				       int reason)
	{
		siginfo_t si;
		/*
		 * F_SETSIG can change ->signum lockless in parallel, make
		 * sure we read it once and use the same value throughout.
		 */
		int signum = ACCESS_ONCE(fown->signum) ?: SIGIO;

		if (!sigio_perm(p, fown, signum))
			return;

		si.si_signo = signum;
		si.si_errno = 0;
		si.si_code  = reason;
		si.si_fd    = fd;
		/* Make sure we are called with one of the POLL_*
		   reasons, otherwise we could leak kernel stack into
		   userspace.  */
		BUG_ON((reason & __SI_MASK) != __SI_POLL);
		if (reason - POLL_IN >= NSIGPOLL)
			si.si_band  = ~0L;
		else
			si.si_band = band_table[reason - POLL_IN];

		/* Failure to queue an rt signal must be reported as SIGIO */
		if (!group_send_sig_info(signum, &si, p))
			group_send_sig_info(SIGIO, SEND_SIG_PRIV, p);
	}

(except it should be on top of fcntl-add-f_etown_ex.patch).
This way, at least we don't break the "detect RT signal failed" above.

What do you think?

But let me repeat: I just can't convince myself we have a good reason
to change the strange, but carefully documented behaviour.

In case you agree with the code above, I can send the patch. But only
if I have a "good" changelog from you + your Signed-of-by in advance ;)

Otherwise, please feel free to send this/similar change yourself.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-18 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-27 16:51 perf_counters issue with self-sampling threads stephane eranian
2009-07-27 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <7c86c4470907272213w2ee57080re50dd22a4d73a7e0@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-28  8:51     ` stephane eranian
2009-07-28  8:56       ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28  9:13         ` stephane eranian
2009-08-04 16:09     ` stephane eranian
2009-07-29 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-29 12:37   ` stephane eranian
2009-07-29 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-29 22:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-30 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-30 19:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-30 20:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-30 20:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-30 21:09             ` stephane eranian
2009-07-31  8:35             ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-31 14:01               ` stephane eranian
2009-07-31 20:52               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-31 21:11               ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-01  1:27                 ` [PATCH 0/2] send_sigio/do_send_sig_info (Was: [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID) Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 15:48                   ` [PATCH 3/2] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 17:16                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 17:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 18:06                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 18:36                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 19:02                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-04 11:39                               ` [PATCH 3/2 -v3] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_EX Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-04 16:20                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-04 16:52                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-04 17:19                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-06 13:14                                       ` [PATCH 3/2 -v4] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 19:05                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-07 12:10                                           ` stephane eranian
2009-08-01  1:28                 ` [PATCH 1/2] signals: introduce do_send_sig_info() helper Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-01  1:28                 ` [PATCH 2/2] signals: send_sigio: use do_send_sig_info() to avoid check_kill_permission() Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 12:53                 ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID stephane eranian
2009-08-09  5:46                   ` F_SETOWN_TID: F_SETOWN was thread-specific for a while Jamie Lokier
2009-08-10 12:22                     ` stephane eranian
2009-08-10 17:03                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-10 21:01                         ` stephane eranian
2009-08-17 17:16                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-17 17:40                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-17 22:26                             ` stephane eranian
2009-08-18 11:45                               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-08-20 10:00                                 ` stephane eranian
2009-08-11 13:10                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-17 17:05                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 15:21                 ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra

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