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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>,
	"Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com>,
	"Kernel development list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"USB list" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: 2.6.31-rc5 regression: Oops when USB Serial disconnected while in use
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:42:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090821194252.582ef5cd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0908211326120.4029-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

> Then surely serial_open() should call serial->type->open() _after_ 
> tty_port_block_til_ready(), not before.

It needs the hardware active and running to do the block_til_ready

> Now the second user tries to do stuff but the hardware isn't ready.  
> Instead this should go:
> 
> 	serial_open()				/* first user */
> 		tty_port_block_til_ready()	/* returns immediately */
> 		serial->type->open()		/* initializes the hardware */
> 
> 	serial_open()				/* second user */
> 		tty_port_block_til_ready()	/* blocks */

If the first user succeeded then second should open immediately as the use
count is >= 1 already. It is re-opening the open device, unless the
hangup occurs first.

> 
> 	serial_hangup()				/* first connection drops */
> 		serial_do_down()
> 			serial->type-close()	/* resets the hardware */
> 
> 		... tty_port_block_til_ready() returns
> 		serial->type->open()		/* not skipped */
> 
> Now the second user can proceed to use the hardware.  Or have I 
> misunderstood how this is intended to work?


Usual paths

	open
	block_til_ready
	open returns 0
	do stuff
	close

	open
	block_til_ready
	open returns 0
	do stuff
	hangup (closes hw side)
	further stuff errors
	close (does nothing to the hw side tty_port_close knows about
	this)

	open
	block_til_ready
	hangup
	open returns error
	close path called - knows about hangup in tty_close_port


Hence the reason it always calls the close path to cleanup hardware and
other resources even if open returns an error

> 
> Alan Stern
> 
> P.S.: Can you explain the reason why tty_port and tty_struct are two 
> separate structures?  Isn't the same port always associated with the 
> same tty?

The tty structure is the virtual interface side, the tty_port is the
hardware device. Historically the port side varied randomly by device
preventing any commonality being extracted into helpers.

For most hardware the tty_port lifetime is the physical port lifetime,
the tty lifetime is open->final close (or a final kref drop afterwards)

It also means eventually that we can have a tty_port and things hung off
it for all hardware which means

- Most of the locking costs for receiving v hangup go away (as you
  queue to the tty_port not the tty - ie move the tty_buffer struct)
- It becomes possible to have a proper generic console/debug console
  without hacks and fake tty devices.


Most drivers tend to look like

	open
		test ASYNC_INITIALIZED
			init hardware
			[either in full or clean up partial]
			set ASYNC_INITIALIZED)
		any other alloc/counter magic
		tty->private_data = my stuff
		block_til_ready
	return ok/error

	close
		if (hung_up)
			return
		if (tty->driver_data == NULL)
			return
		counts
		clean up resources
		if (last && test_clear INITIALIZED)
			deinit-hardware
	return ok/error

	hangup
		if (initialized & test_clear INITIALIZED) {
			deinit hardware
		}

which is where I was trying to get the USB code.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-21 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-08 17:47 Bruno Prémont
2009-08-09 14:02 ` Ozan Çağlayan
2009-08-09 15:00   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 15:18 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-10 15:44   ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 17:18     ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-10 18:13       ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 18:35         ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-10 18:51           ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-10 19:29             ` Greg KH
2009-08-18 17:00               ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-18 22:36                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-18 23:16                   ` Greg KH
2009-08-19 17:22                   ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-19 18:20                     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-19 20:15                       ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-19 21:01                         ` Alan Stern
2009-08-19 21:50                           ` Alan Cox
2009-08-19 22:44                             ` Alan Stern
2009-08-20 19:25                               ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-20 21:20                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-21  9:25                                   ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-21 15:43                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-21 15:48                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-08-21 17:39                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-08-21 18:42                                           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-08-21 20:52                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-08-21 23:16                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-22  2:30                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-23  2:51                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-23 16:15                                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-23 16:30                                                     ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-24  1:24                                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-24 20:15                                                         ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-25  1:42                                                           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-25 20:19                                                             ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-25 23:42                                                               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-26 20:32                                                                 ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-27  2:19                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-21 16:50                                       ` Bruno Prémont
2009-08-20 21:58                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-21 14:02                                   ` Alan Stern

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