Re: mm/-next release on kernel.org web page?

[Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>]

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:39:13 +0800 Dave Young wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:42 AM, J.H.<warthog9@kernel.org> wrote:
> > J.H. wrote:
> >>
> >> Randy Dunlap wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:08:40 +0800 Dave Young wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Randy Dunlap<rdunlap@xenotime.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:56:20 +0800 Dave Young wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The last mm patchset is 2.6.28-rc2-mm1. We can not download -mm
> >>>>>> patchset from kernel.org web page since the -next tree born.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could you consider put mmtom release there just like before? And even
> >>>>>> -next tree patchset? It will be more convenient for users who test
> >>>>>> kernel just by downloading from web. Now it's impossible for them to
> >>>>>> test these patchsets because they normally do not subscribe to lkml.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> from www.kernel.org:
> >>>>> For comments about the web pages, please send mail to
> >>>>> webmaster@kernel.org.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> also from www.kernel.org:
> >>>>> Please don't use finger.kernel.org for any sort of automatic
> >>>>> monitoring. The number of automatic bots hitting this port is causing the
> >>>>> finger daemon to shut down more often than not. The same information is
> >>>>> available from http://www.kernel.org/kdist/finger_banner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and of course the finger_banner file is not up to date.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You may consider using my
> >>>>> http://www.xenotime.net/linux/scripts/kcurrent script.
> >>>>> Its output (today) is:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:           2.6.30.4
> >>>>> The latest prepatch for the stable Linux kernel tree is:    2.6.31-rc5
> >>>>> The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is:              2.4.37.4
> >>>>> The latest 2.2 version of the Linux kernel is:              2.2.26
> >>>>> The latest prepatch for the 2.2 Linux kernel tree is:       2.2.27-rc2
> >>>>> The latest -mm patch to the stable Linux kernels is:
> >>>>>  2.6.28-rc2-mm1
> >>>>> mmotm-2009-0730-0501 ... applies to: 2.6.31-rc4
> >>>>> next-20090731 ... applies to: v2.6.31-rc4
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks randy. Very helpful. But I still have same question. Normal
> >>>> users need a more convenient and straightforward  way to get what they
> >>>> want.  It will be better that we put them on www.kernel.org main page,
> >>>> not only the version info but also the download link.
> >>>>
> >>>> At least for me when I started my kernel hacking some years ago I
> >>>> always download kernel from www.kernel.org main page. I'm not sure
> >>>> whether others people do same thing. Current -next and mmtom are more
> >>>> like for us to do internal testing.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, I agree with you, but webmaster@kernel.org seems to be ignoring these
> >>> emails (this is the third such one in the last 3-4 months).
> >>
> >> In fact we have been responding to these inquiries both to the public ones
> >> we have gotten (what we get added to on LKML), and to the private inquires,
> >> the latest one from LKML being a bit more than a week ago:
> >>
> >> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/24/334
> >>
> >> We have been well aware of the problem for quite some time, the code base
> >> has rotted horribly, and the way kernel trees are placed in the hierarchy
> >> has changed from any reasonable assumption that was made many years ago when
> >> the code was first put together.  We (meaning me) are, literally, in the
> >> middle of revamping this code, however it's basically a complete re-write of
> >> the code base at this point.
> >>
> >> And in the last few weeks we've been dealing with quite a lot on top of
> >> trying to make forward progress on this code base, like the Bind DNS
> >> vulnerabilities, OSCon, Linux Symposium and the plethora of other things
> >> that need doing.  Really, we aren't ignoring the problem, there's just one
> >> of me and a lot to do and I'm plugging away at it all.  Please be patient,
> >> I'm trying to get it done and up and running.  Until then *PLEASE* bear with
> >> us while we get through everything.
> >>
> >> - John 'Warthog9' Hawley
> >>
> >
> >
> > Not to reply to myself, but I've pushed out an update that should
> > incorporate the expected trees now, this does eliminate the 2.2 and all but
> > the last 2.4 tree (2.4.37.5), but does include all of the stable 2.6.x
> > trees, the snapshots and linux-next.  Frontpage, finger and rss should all
> > be showing the new information universally.  I'll probably tweak things a
> > bit more (layout and such for the rss & html) but the kernels should now be
> > listed as people expect.
> 
> Thanks for your work.

Yes, thanks.  Much better.

> Is it possible to add latest mmotm link?
> Just link to andrew's broken-out.tar.gz with the stamp name?

Ditto.  Please.

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~Randy
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