From: Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/23] io-controller: fix queue vs group fairness
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 04:03:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090909020345.GL17468@gandalf.sssup.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090909013205.GB3594@redhat.com>
> From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
> Date: Tue, Sep 08, 2009 09:32:05PM -0400
>
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 01:13:34AM +0200, Fabio Checconi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
> > > Date: Tue, Sep 08, 2009 06:28:27PM -0400
> > >
> > >
> > > o I found an issue during test and that is if there is a mix of queue and group
> > ...
> > > So we need to keep track of process io queue's vdisktime, even it after got
> > > deleted from io scheduler's service tree and use that same vdisktime if that
> > > queue gets backlogged again. But trusting a ioq's vdisktime is bad because
> > > it can lead to issues if a service tree min_vtime wrap around takes place
> > > between two requests of the queue. (Agreed that it can be not that easy to
> > > hit but it is possible).
> > >
> > > Hence, keep a cache of io queues serviced recently and when a queue gets
> > > backlogged, if it is found in cache, use that vdisktime otherwise assign
> > > a new vdisktime. This cache of io queues (idle tree), is basically the idea
> > > implemented by BFQ guys. I had gotten rid of idle trees in V9 and now I am
> > > bringing it back. (Now I understand it better. :-)).
> > >
> > > There is one good side affect of keeping the cache of recently service io
> > > queues. Now CFQ can differentiate between streaming readers and new processes
> > > doing IO. Now for a new queue (which is not in the cache), we can assign a
> > > lower vdisktime and for a streaming reader, we assign vdisktime based on disk
> > > time used. This way small file readers or the processes doing small amount
> > > of IO will have reduced latencies at the cost of little reduced throughput of
> > > streaming readers.
> > >
> >
> > just a little note: this patch seems to introduce a special case for
> > vdisktime = 0, assigning it the meaning of "bad timestamp," but the virtual
> > time space wraps, so 0 is a perfectly legal value, which can be reached by
> > service. I have no idea if it can produce visible effects, but it doesn't
> > seem to be correct.
> >
> >
>
> Hi Fabio,
>
> You are right that technically during wrap arounds one can hit value 0 as
> legal value. But I think it is hard to hit at the same time, the only side
> affect of it will be that a queue will be either placed favorably (in case of
> sync queues) or at the end of tree (if it is async queue).
>
> Async queues anyway go at the end after every dispatch round. So only side
> affect is that once during wrap around cycle a sync queue will be placed
> favorably and can gain share once in a dispatch round.
>
> I think it is not a big issue at this point of time. But if it becomes
> significant, I can introduce a new variable or start passing function
> parameter to denote whether we found the queue in cache or not.
>
> But if you think that it is absolutely no no, let me know....
>
I don't think it's an issue at all, just wanted to make sure it gets
noticed, because timestamping bugs may be hard to hit but often are
hard to debug. Maybe it deserves a line of comment...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-09 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-28 21:30 [RFC] IO scheduler based IO controller V9 Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 01/23] io-controller: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 02/23] io-controller: Core of the elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 22:26 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 03/23] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 1:29 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 04/23] io-controller: Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 1:44 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 05/23] io-controller: Core scheduler changes to support hierarhical scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 3:31 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 06/23] io-controller: cgroup related changes for hierarchical group support Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 3:37 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 07/23] io-controller: Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 23:04 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-03 3:08 ` Munehiro Ikeda
2009-09-10 20:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 08/23] io-controller: cfq changes to use " Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 23:11 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 09/23] io-controller: Export disk time used and nr sectors dipatched through cgroups Vivek Goyal
2009-08-29 23:12 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:30 ` [PATCH 10/23] io-controller: Debug hierarchical IO scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-08-30 0:10 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 11/23] io-controller: Introduce group idling Vivek Goyal
2009-08-30 0:38 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-18 3:56 ` [PATCH] io-controller: Fix another bug that causing system hanging Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-18 14:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 12/23] io-controller: Wait for requests to complete from last queue before new queue is scheduled Vivek Goyal
2009-08-30 0:40 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 13/23] io-controller: Separate out queue and data Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 15:27 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 14/23] io-conroller: Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 2:49 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 15/23] io-controller: noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 2:52 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-10 17:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 16/23] io-controller: deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 3:13 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 13:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 17/23] io-controller: anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 17:21 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 18/23] io-controller: blkio_cgroup patches from Ryo to track async bios Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 17:34 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 18:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 23:51 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-01 7:00 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-01 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-01 14:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-01 18:02 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-02 0:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-02 3:12 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-02 9:52 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-02 13:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-03 2:24 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-03 2:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-03 3:41 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 19/23] io-controller: map async requests to appropriate cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 17:39 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 20/23] io-controller: Per cgroup request descriptor support Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 17:54 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-14 18:33 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-16 18:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 21/23] io-controller: Per io group bdi congestion interface Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 19:49 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 22/23] io-controller: Support per cgroup per device weights and io class Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 21:31 ` [PATCH 23/23] io-controller: debug elevator fair queuing support Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 20:57 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 21:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-08-31 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-31 1:09 ` [RFC] IO scheduler based IO controller V9 Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-02 0:58 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-02 13:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-07 2:14 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-08 13:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-07 7:40 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-08 13:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 19:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 7:38 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-09 15:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 3:20 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-11 1:15 ` [PATCH] io-controller: Fix task hanging when there are more than one groups Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-14 2:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-15 3:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 0:05 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-16 2:58 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-16 18:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-17 6:08 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-24 1:10 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-09-09 9:41 ` [RFC] IO scheduler based IO controller V9 Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 22:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH 24/23] io-controller: Don't leave a queue active when a disk is idle Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 3:39 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH 25/23] io-controller: fix queue vs group fairness Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 22:37 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-09 1:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 23:13 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 1:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 2:03 ` Fabio Checconi [this message]
2009-09-09 4:44 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH 26/23] io-controller: fix writer preemption with in a group Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 4:59 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-10 15:18 ` [RFC] IO scheduler based IO controller V9 Jerome Marchand
2009-09-10 20:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 20:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-11 13:16 ` Jerome Marchand
2009-09-11 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-11 14:43 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-11 14:55 ` Jerome Marchand
2009-09-11 15:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-11 14:44 ` Jerome Marchand
2009-09-14 14:26 ` Jerome Marchand
2009-09-13 18:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-14 14:31 ` Jerome Marchand
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