From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com, vgoyal@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
jens.axboe@oracle.com, agk@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
nauman@google.com, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, jmoyer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:49:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090915151952.GH4846@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090916.001237.226784704.ryov@valinux.co.jp>
* Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp> [2009-09-16 00:12:37]:
> Hi Dhaval,
>
> Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > > I know that cgroup is a very well defined functionality, that is why
> > > > > dm-ioband also supports throttling per cgroup. But how are we supposed
> > > > > to do throttling on the system which doesn't support cgroup?
> > > > > As I wrote in another mail to Vivek, I would like to make use of
> > > > > dm-ioband on RHEL 5.x.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ryo,
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure that upstream should really be worrying about RHEL 5.x.
> > > > cgroups is a relatively mature solution and is available in most (if not
> > > > all) community distros today. We really should not be looking at another
> > > > grouping solution if the sole reason is that then dm-ioband can be used
> > > > on RHEL 5.x. The correct solution would be to maintain a separate patch
> > > > for RHEL 5.x then and not to burden the upstream kernel.
> > >
> > > RHEL 5.x is not the sole reason for that.
> > >
> >
> > Could you please enumerate the other reasons for pushing in another
> > grouping mechanism then? (Why can we not resolve them via cgroups?)
>
> I'm sorry for late reply.
>
> I'm not only pushing in the grouping mechanism by using the dmsetup
> command. Please understand that dm-ioband also provides cgroup
> interface and can be configured in the same manner like other cgroup
> subsystems.
> Why it is so bad to have multiple ways to configure? I think that it
> rather gains in flexibility of configurations.
>
The main issue I see is user confusion and distro issues. If a distro
compiles cgroups and dmsetup provides both methods, what method
do we recommend to end users? Also should system management tool
support two configuration mechanisms for the same functionality?
--
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-15 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-01 16:50 Vivek Goyal
2009-09-01 17:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-03 13:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-04 1:12 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 21:40 ` dm-ioband fairness in terms of sectors seems to be killing disk (Was: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 11:10 ` dm-ioband fairness in terms of sectors seems to be killing disk Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-04 4:02 ` Regarding dm-ioband tests Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-04 23:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-07 11:02 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-07 13:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 3:01 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 3:22 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-08 5:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 13:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 5:17 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 13:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 16:30 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-08 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 17:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-15 23:37 ` ioband: Writer starves reader even without competitors (Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 12:08 ` ioband: Writer starves reader even without competitors Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 17:06 ` Regarding dm-ioband tests Dhaval Giani
2009-09-09 6:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 10:51 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-10 7:58 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-11 9:53 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-15 15:12 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 15:19 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-09-15 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-15 16:21 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 3:06 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 10:01 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 3:45 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-10 13:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 19:24 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-09 0:09 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 2:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 15:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 17:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 19:01 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 9:24 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-16 4:45 ` ioband: Limited fairness and weak isolation between groups (Was: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-18 7:33 ` ioband: Limited fairness and weak isolation between groups Ryo Tsuruta
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