From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Lennart Baruschka" <FunFlyer@gmx.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disabling DMA with ICH10?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:35:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090929233505.7ff11cad@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3k4zh32vp.fsf@intrepid.localdomain>
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:35:54 +0200
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl> wrote:
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>
> >> Not that long, there is no emulation there (except for port #80 (hex?)
> >> and similar). Normal 33 MHz access.
> >
> > ATA accesses go across the cable and while some of them are snooped,
> > cached and other magic is done there are cases it turns into a
> > transaction back and forth with the drive - that *is* slow. PIO 0 in fact
> > is ISA speed
>
> Sure, PATA inserts wait states, the 4 bus cycles per access (or
> something like that) is the minimum for PIO on PCI. But it's still
> normal 33 MHz access (with as many wait states as the PATA mode needs),
> not ISA 8 MHz emulation (fastest PIO would be faster than ISA)
You are missing the point. The sequence is
INB foo
CPU -> PCI device read this register
PCI device -> Disk
trundle whirr whirrr
clunk clunk thud
Disk -> PCI device
PCI device -> CPU... "5"
INB completes
The INB is not interruptible mid instruction and stalls the CPU for the
full period of the message passing back and forth across the bus. So PIO
0 on PCI stalls the bus for the equivalent of an ISA access, and PIO4
while a good deal faster is still a very long stall in hard real time
terms.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-29 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-28 21:31 Lennart Baruschka
2009-09-28 20:37 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2009-09-28 22:40 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-29 7:54 ` Lennart Baruschka
2009-09-29 8:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-29 12:29 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-09-29 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-29 20:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-09-29 22:35 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-09-30 12:21 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-09-29 10:46 ` Alan Cox
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