From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Cc: bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/8] CFS Hard limits - v2
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:00:53 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090930153053.GM3071@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC374E3.9000308@openvz.org>
* Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> [2009-09-30 19:10:27]:
> Balbir Singh wrote:
> > * Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org> [2009-09-30 17:36:29]:
> >
> >> Bharata B Rao wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Here is the v2 post of hard limits feature for CFS group scheduler. This
> >>> RFC post mainly adds runtime borrowing feature and has a new locking scheme
> >>> to protect CFS runtime related fields.
> >>>
> >>> It would be nice to have some comments on this set!
> >> I have a question I'd like to ask before diving into the code.
> >> Consider I'm a user, that has a 4CPUs box 2GHz each and I'd like
> >> to create a container with 2CPUs 1GHz each. Can I achieve this
> >> after your patches?
> >
> > I don't think the GHz makes any sense, consider CPUs with frequency
> > scaling. If I can scale from 1.6GHz to say 2.6GHz or 2GHz to 4GHz,
> > what does it mean for hard limit control? Hard limits define control
> > over existing bandwidth, anything else would be superficial and hard
> > hard to get right for both developers and users.
>
> Two numbers for configuring limits make even less sense OTOH ;)
> By assigning 2GHz for 4GHz CPU I obviously want half of its power ;)
> Please, see my reply to vatsa@ in this thread.
But it makes life more difficult for the administrator to think in
terms of GHz -- no? Specifically with different heterogeneous systems.
I think it would be chaotic in a data center to configure GHz for
every partition. Not to say that it makes it even more confusing when
running on top of KVM. Lets say I create two vCPUs and I specifiy GHz
outside, do I expect to see it in /proc/cpuinfo?
I'd like to hear what others think about GHz as well.
--
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-30 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-30 12:49 Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:50 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/8] sched: Rename sched_rt_period_mask() and use it in CFS also Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:51 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/8] sched: Maintain aggregated tasks count in cfs_rq at each hierarchy level Bharata B Rao
2009-10-13 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-14 3:42 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:52 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/8] sched: Bandwidth initialization for fair task groups Bharata B Rao
2009-10-13 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-14 3:49 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:52 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/8] sched: Enforce hard limits by throttling Bharata B Rao
2009-10-13 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-14 3:41 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-10-14 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-14 11:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-10-14 13:18 ` Herbert Poetzl
2009-10-15 3:30 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:53 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/8] sched: Unthrottle the throttled tasks Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:54 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 6/8] sched: Add throttle time statistics to /proc/sched_debug Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:55 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 7/8] sched: Rebalance cfs runtimes Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 12:55 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 8/8] sched: Hard limits documentation Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 13:36 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 0/8] CFS Hard limits - v2 Pavel Emelyanov
2009-09-30 14:25 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-09-30 14:39 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2009-09-30 15:09 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 11:39 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 12:03 ` Herbert Poetzl
2009-10-13 12:19 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 12:30 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-10-13 12:45 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 12:56 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-10-13 12:57 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-10-13 13:01 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 14:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-10-13 22:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2009-10-13 14:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-09-30 14:38 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-30 15:10 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-09-30 15:30 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-09-30 22:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2009-10-01 5:12 ` Bharata B Rao
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