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From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	tglx@linutronix.de,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: T400 suspend/resume regression -- bisected to a mystery merge commit
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:02:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091002100218.7c4eb8b8@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910011817120.6996@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:21:50 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > 
> > commit 8c3ee48dabee782d470cc4c7048ea64bb8b7d1cb
> > Author: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> > Date:   Thu Oct 1 20:39:03 2009 -0400
> > 
> >     Revert "timekeeping: Update clocksource with stop_machine"
> >     
> >     This reverts commit 75c5158f70c065b9704b924503d96e8297838f79.
> 
> Hmm. Looks good. But you didn't cc most of the people actually involved 
> with that commit (Martin who is the author, and John who acked it).
> 
> I think the revert is the right thing to do, especially as that 
> 'clocksource_mutex' looks totally bogus. Either the thing is protected by 
> 'stop_machine' or it's not. In neither case does it seem to make any sense 
> to replace a spinlock with a mutex. 
> 
> And resuming anything with a big mutex is crazy anyway. 
> 
> That said, I do wonder if this is already fixed. See commit 
> 89133f93508137231251543d1732da638e6022e1:
> 
>     clocksource: Resume clocksource without taking the clocksource mutex
> 
> which already undid the part that probably mattered for you. That said, I 
> still do think that that mutex is dubious, so maybe we should undo it all.

It whole clocksource rework started with the wish to get rid of the
change_clocksource call in update_wall_time. That call is unnecessary
in 99.9% of all cases as the clocksource does not change all the time.
In order to do that the new clocksource is activated with stop_machine.
Now if you use stop_machine you can not hold any spinlock which made
it necessary to convert the clocksource spinlock to a mutex. And we
need something to protect against concurrent clocksource changes, e.g.
one clocksource_register vs a clocksource_change_rating triggered by
the watchdog. The only other solution would be to split the clocksource
change, part 1) detection that a clocksource change is needed, part 2)
stop_machine does the clocksource selection. Right now the clocksource
to use is identified prior to the stop_machine call.

-- 
blue skies,
   Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-02  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-26  6:57 Theodore Ts'o
2009-09-26 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-27  8:08 ` Len Brown
2009-09-27 16:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-28 13:51   ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-28 21:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-02  0:59       ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-02  1:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-02  8:02           ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]
2009-10-02 22:34           ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-02  6:50     ` Magnus Damm
2009-10-02 17:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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