From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl@librato.com>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, arnd@arndb.de,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Nathan Lynch <nathanl@austin.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Louis.Rilling@kerlabs.com,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@elte.hu,
Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
roland@redhat.com, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][v8][PATCH 0/10] Implement clone3() system call
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:51:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091020005125.GG27627@count0.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ADCDE7F.4090501@librato.com>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:47:43PM -0400, Oren Laadan wrote:
>
>
> Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> >> Daniel Lezcano [daniel.lezcano@free.fr] wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Subject: [RFC][v8][PATCH 0/10] Implement clone3() system call
> >>>>
<snip>
> > Another point. It's another way to extend the exhausted clone flags as
> > the cloneat can be called as a compatibility way, with cloneat(getpid(),
> > 0, ... )
>
> Which is what the proposed new clone_....() does.
Just to be clear -- Suka's proposing to extend the clone flags. However I
don't believe reusing the "pid" parameters as Daniel seemed to suggest
was ever part of Suka's proposed changes.
<snip>
> > I don't really see a difference between sys_restart(pid_t pid , int fd,
> > long flags) where pid_t is the topmost in the hierarchy, fd is a file
> > descriptor to a structure "pid_t * + struct clone_args *" and flags is
> > "PROCTREE".
I think the difference has to do with keeping the code maintainable.
Clone creates the process so it's already involved in allocating and
assigning pids to the new task. Switching pids at sys_restart() would
add another point in the code where pids are allocated and assigned.
This suggests we may have to worry about introducing new obscure races
for anyone who's working on the pid allocator to be careful of. At
least when all the code is "localized" to the clone paths we can be
reasonably certain of proper maintenance.
<snip>
> I really really really hope we can settle down on *a* name,
> *any* name, and move forward. Amen.
clone3() seemed to be the leading contender from what I've read so far.
Does anyone still object to clone3() after reading the whole thread?
Cheers,
-Matt Helsley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-20 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-13 4:49 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:49 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 1/10]: Factor out code to allocate pidmap page Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:50 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 2/10]: Have alloc_pidmap() return actual error code Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:50 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 3/10]: Make pid_max a pid_ns property Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 5:19 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-10-13 13:09 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 15:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-13 16:10 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-13 16:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-13 4:51 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 4/10]: Add target_pid parameter to alloc_pidmap() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 11:50 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-10-15 0:24 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:51 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 5/10]: Add target_pids parameter to alloc_pid() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:52 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 6/10]: Add target_pids parameter to copy_process() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:52 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 7/10]: Check invalid clone flags Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 18:35 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-13 23:38 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:52 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 8/10]: Define do_fork_with_pids() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 4:54 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 9/10]: Define clone3() syscall Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 18:46 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-16 4:20 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-16 6:25 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-10-16 18:06 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-19 17:44 ` Matt Helsley
2009-10-19 21:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-19 23:50 ` Matt Helsley
2009-10-21 4:26 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-10-21 13:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-21 19:44 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-21 22:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-22 10:40 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-10-22 18:10 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-22 10:26 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-10-22 11:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-22 12:14 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-10-22 12:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-22 13:57 ` Matt Helsley
2009-10-13 4:55 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 10/10]: Document " Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-14 12:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 18:39 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-19 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-21 8:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-21 9:33 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-21 13:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-21 18:27 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 20:50 ` [RFC][v8][PATCH 0/10] Implement clone3() system call Roland McGrath
2009-10-13 23:27 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 23:53 ` Roland McGrath
2009-10-14 1:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-14 4:36 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-14 4:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-14 22:36 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-14 22:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-15 0:17 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-13 23:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-14 1:39 ` Matt Helsley
2009-10-14 2:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-14 4:40 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-14 4:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-14 16:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-16 19:22 ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-10-16 19:44 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-19 20:34 ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-10-19 21:47 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-20 0:51 ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2009-10-20 3:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-20 4:03 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-20 10:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-20 14:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-20 18:33 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-20 19:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-20 20:13 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-21 6:20 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-21 9:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-21 18:52 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-21 21:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-23 0:42 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-23 1:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-23 5:30 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-23 5:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-23 19:21 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-23 20:48 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-23 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-24 3:38 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-23 19:16 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-23 19:34 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-23 23:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-20 14:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-21 15:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-10-21 18:45 ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-22 11:22 ` Daniel Lezcano
2009-10-26 9:38 Albert Cahalan
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